so talk to me about movement what is it well movement is everything right movement is in anything movement is life if the reason or movement there is no life and on a cellular level on a macro level on a micro level on any level you have a following all around the globe where you teach people how to move their bodies what are people doing wrong to start with and well first the kind of tools available for people to work on movement to develop themselves as movers our disciplinary tools they are fitness tools their yoga tools etc etc when you use this perspective you miss so much out of your body capabilities and then later on you might pay a health price for it so for example the world of yoga is pushed as a very healthy phenomenon and it does contain a lot of good stuff but it completely disregards huge amounts of movement for example there is no pool there is no Hank there is no any kind of suspension point which changes the whole way that you work your body and then you can take this into any small isolated discipline but the movement approach kind of moves you a little bit backwards and widen the spectrum where you observe what what kind of possibilities the body has and explore them develop yourself as a mover and then as a specialist so I coined a phrase that goes Homo sapiens first Homo motos the mover second home especially does third you're a surfer but first you're a human being and also you're a mover below being a surfer so you still need to squat down pick up your child or a play frisbee in the park in the weekend or have a healthy spine which might not come from your isolated discipline so I notice you're moving around a little bit more we're talking here as well so is this part of it and we've been known to move people around and out of sitting which creates a lot of the modern problems and and putting them back into this very basic resting human position the squat some refer to it is the paleo chair when I travel through Indonesia certain Asian countries and elsewhere in the world you see a lot of people this is how I cook that's it on the side of the road cooking every little little fire and actually the dinner life is because you are meant to a to digest in this position we actually spend most of our existence eating down here you don't eat up standing so much and definitely not lying down sitting was not very common until in the 15th century they started to promote the back supported chairs in Europe so we we've issued this challenge the squat challenge where we had a huge participation of 14,000 people from around the world and basically starting to investigate the squat position for 30 minutes a day in total time so you could do two minutes here five minutes here one minute exactly and of course you have to start very very easy very slowly and work around pains and aches and try to resume this human position I've goddess you talking about hanging why is it so important and what's the best way to do it hmm hanging is another very important function and if you look at our shoulder girdle it's designed to Hank to swing to break e8 to pull and climb as well and so that's something else that I have been promoting for many many years over 10 years I've been talking about hanging and making my students Hank regularly and investigate it first you have to establish some some anchor points it can be the top of a door that you can put a towel on and just threat yourself out and spend the maybe 30 minutes at a time in the beginning with time you'll start to notice you're actually craving that sensation and your body knows best as long as you introduce the right taste like we're doing with the food the body actually starts to develop these cravings but if I never tasted the tomato the first am I tasted after I've been eating and you know processed chemical food I cannot even sense that taste from a paleo point of view we're eating foods that we've evolved to eat over the time tell me from an ancestral point of view about how women too should live optimally hmm well movement was a big chunk of our lives and throughout Industrial Revolution and in technology we're moving away from that and we're definitely paying the price and thankfully now some new forces are steering us back towards the right direction first it was the world of fitness but now it comes this word movement and we are actually a regaining or assuming those basic functions making sure you can squat you can move in propagate hanging and opening the shoulders oh yeah just moving around just moving around regularly I'm fascinated to know why you felt compelled to bring this awareness about a movement into into popular culture around the world mmm I can I could fake it and tell you you know I made a very big plan 15 years ago and I executed per day but I don't really believe in that and that wouldn't be honest as well so then I really believe in a reactionary kind of way and throughout the years of developing my own philosophy to how I move and I shared it with close people and later on on a bigger perspective one of the things that they helped me was I I made I made it a point to share it in English through my blog and that created a phenomenon started to pull and unravel the string for me in a way and I reacted to that and basically continue to develop the perspective the approach and share it worldwide what is your vision having people moving more providing more tools for the movement culture this community that is evolving around the move perspective there has to be I guess an underlying reason is it to make people feel better is it to make ill health less than what it is at the moment of it actually that's a big philosophical thing that I don't believe it needs an excuse movement is already the end goal because movement is life so whether you like it or not you're gonna have to move the only question is how well do you do it will you retain your health and abilities because you move it's actually doesn't need any any form of gratification any form of pursuit beyond the act of moving we are physical beings and this the car the cart in error is this separation between mind and body doesn't really happen so you must move you have to be I've listened to you talking interviews before and you're very careful about your vocabulary talk to me about that I think it's very important it defines the connection between language and terminology and how you approach things and how you title them in your head because you use those titles and so instead of the word exercise i'll say movement instead of the word training i'll say practice and those are very important definitions because actually you start to make sense of a lot of stuff around you you're you're surfing practice is a movement practice and it contains a lot of stuff that actually correlates with ballet with in martial arts with a lot of a lot of disciplines around and they're actually sewn together by invisible thread of movement and but very common is to define surfing as surfing not as a movement practice and actually a fraction eight ourselves from each other instead of being together as human beings as movers we start to isolate ourselves and put titles before our names even hi nice to meet you I'm a surfer my name is Edom versus I need Oh first time a human being and I'm a mover and then I have also another title there are you at your peak physical performance at the moment or is it something you're striving to keep developing I met by peak and when you talk about the general movement perspective as the ones that I use I'm definitely at my peak I am at my most diverse most a wide spectrum kind of ability skill set and maybe for specific disciplines here or there I do I I had to lose certain abilities to regain others and but in that perspective I'm definitely at my peak moving still a lot 68 hours a day and trying to pull people into more and more movement of course it's not for everyone to move so much and by definitely starting so
mewhere where do you see yourself in 20 30 40 50 years time on the move on the move as always and yeah educating it continuing to contribute to him to the movement culture around and I'm constantly learning about yourself as well always definitely I prefer to be a student any day of the week and rather than a teacher and first and foremost it's a cycle it's a circle in Portuguese they say so DC plucky aprendo so messed wicked oh Lisa I am a disciple that learns I'm a master who teaches and the sign of it the symbol of it is a snake eating its own tail so I definitely believe in that if you are not a student being a teacher is a short-term thing and if you are a teacher you must be student they communicate together yeah part of each other the people sitting at home that aren't confident in their own abilities to be able to would not sure where to start what are some basic tips for people that you can give mm-hmm first thinking about bringing life through movement to any section that is deprived from it so if its knees and hips and ankles just regaining that squat position would be a big thing and for more the shoulders elbows and send grip which is super important with the hands we manipulate and hanging hanging work just regular hanging and not talking about pooling or doing chin-ups or muscle ups but just the basic function can you hang swing and you see those children the playgrounds they want to do that and then some adult will walk up and say hey can you do a chin-up it they're not interested in pulling themselves up they want to swing brekkie 8 they use the the monkey bars touching the floor is another big thing we don't touch the floor anymore when was the last time your father touched the floor or my father it's not a very common thing so by touching the floor you start to regain a lot of functions you must live close to the floor as we've we've been living for 2 million years and then start to unravel again what advice would you give to children hmm children don't need much of advice and that's something that I learned from my mother is actually the inner voice of a child should not be a hidden squashed aside in over casted by the voices of the parents the teachers the surrounding environment so many times it's actually stepping out of his way or her way and to allow the natural instincts to lead and if a child wants to hang off of a bar many times we step in there is well know be careful or we direct in a specific way but actually those instincts are perfect and they're doing what they're supposed to do so I guess what you've created with your movement is bringing those instincts back to adults for at any age basically is that is that am I getting it right here yes yes you're helping us to reawaken to who we are as human beings yes one hundred percent so if I'm sitting here and we're talking together and I start to feel my spines starts to spend too much time in this position I'll just by awareness I'll start to move around just a little bit maybe waving like this scooping under or assuming some motions or rotations death awareness can only be developed again into what it should have been like a child fidgeting around any seat and if we recreate the definitions for it the terminology for it you know and a lot of the stuff that we're doing with children in schools is we're killing that those instincts so when a child will move around all or his attention will will drift around that is actually what it's supposed to do and we bring it back into focus but by doing that we're also killing something very pure very important .
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