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Gunnar Lovelace | What Clean Eating Will Look Like in 20 Years












I mean I think the end of the day we have to recognize that we are part of a very interconnected world at this point and the actions that we make individually and the actions that we may collectively have massive impact on our own lives on the economy on the environment and people all over the world he is a serial entrepreneur whose ventures center around social change co-founder and co-ceo of thrive market a membership-based site that has just exploded over the past year really they got over 4,000 products twenty-five to fifty percent off retail price shipped anywhere in the US for free here today with me is the very fashionable ganar Lovelace Thanks coming on man that's quite an intro thanks man I really appreciate out I hope I can live up to it I know I'm trying to make these like the big wrestler intros with the fireworks in the background yeah yeah you've got this beautiful natural background so I you're getting close Seattle Sun man you take the three days a year when it's sunny and not pouring down rain that you can get and you are right cling onto those so last year we talked about sustainability and the fact that there's so many different branches of this health issue or health in general you know there's the political side there's the environmental side there's the health and wellness side of the fitness side and I want to bring you back on because I loved that what I got from you ganar was that your mission around health and wellness wasn't the six-pack abs or the Instagram photos flexing in the mirror but it was it was the deeper one of how can we do this differently and I really love that with thrive market and what you're centered on it's really important so thanks for coming back right man yeah yeah I mean it's it I think it's such a such an important topic and who doesn't want their six pack abs but I don't have them I don't be given that I worked so hard and I was here at the office of 5 30 this morning and probably leave at ten or eleven tonight so it's a unfortunately not not I was doing I was doing like lunges in it might standing desk in my last meeting so I thought that was pretty good but yeah man I I think this conversation about where we are this state of food kind of looking at you know where we've come from and how we've evolved to this situation I think it's you know there's this there's a real crises at hand and food and health on one hand and on the other hand there's just so much innovation going on and so much transformation and hunger for change and so I think I think you know you've got both of those forces at play and you know this conversation is central to kind of really what do we do next and how do we do it yeah it's a crazy time we're living in ganar man you know we got it's like the two dominant trains of thought with the health movement is one is like doom and gloom corporations are taking over GMOs are written everywhere and pesticides and it's getting worse and the other is like no we're going to do it we're gonna we're going to change this we're going to go back to roots it's a more positive or the pessimist did you kind of see that happening with where you're at yeah I mean yeah I think it's it's a it's an interesting moment for sure and I think in general my like general philosophy is to really like moderate my extreme views and i think that there's like it's there's very few like absolute uh you know it's like absolutes and i think that you know look I mean obviously eating like really good simple whole foods and let's processed foods and less sugar and like you know these are things that we understand like this is like basic stuff at this point now but doesn't mean that there isn't like a cheat day or there isn't like a you know we're practical human beings and we were filled with desire and we have to learn how to live with that i mean you know at the end of the day we're like basically an animal that's been exposed to all sorts of crazy sugary sweet stuff and we're having to like deal with our lizard brain that fires at a very different level because it's being exposed to like this highly processed engineered sugary thing that's been put in front of us but i think you know like there's so much innovation and technology you know we've staked a claim as a business that you know we don't carry any food with GMOs in it but you know for us I think there's a lot of challenges and problems with genetically engineered food in general but like for us the thing is it's we don't think it's absolutely the wrong thing we just think it's like there isn't enough information about it we don't feel like it's safe to put it out in the market we want consumers to feel like they can come to us and trust that they're not being exposed to GMOs and and I think the thing that bothers me most personally about the GMO issue is that you know we're engineering food crops to withstand massive systemic poisoning application of glyphosate which is an herbicide used to kill weeds and we spray it you know 200 million pounds of this a year you know engineer our food crops to withstand the poisoning so we can kill the weeds the leads get stronger the food crops you know we have to spray more and it creates this like arms race with these super weeds and you know yes our food crops withstand the glyphosate poisoning but it enters into our food stream and it destroys topsoil and it enters into the water supply and that's you know that's just insanity mean to me that we would be doing that systemically so like that's an example of a place where I'm like I'm not emphatically against slowly and methodically and carefully studying GMOs because i think you know maybe maybe there is a genetically modified food crop that we can engineer that needs less water and can be produced more effectively and has more nutrition for you know people in poor countries maybe that is something that can be very helpful I don't know but I think it needs to be done very carefully which we're not doing today and the way they were engineering GMO food crops I think it's just as crazy on the production side so that's I think the thing is in a world of so much polarization it's so easy for us to be like so intense about our views and we're passionate and we have our concerns and and the internet there's so much information we don't know what's truth or what's false and so I think I think it's really important that we like work to moderate and understand each other in a very common-sense way yeah or the sound bites that were all go myself included I mean on facebook you get these 30 second clips of like the highlight of an hour-long conversation and then we get all either for it or against it based on 30 seconds of the hour-long conversation but you can really even this interview you could take 30 seconds of it and have it say something totally different right and missing the whole picture and I think what what I was hearing with you talking about being not against GMOs but you know wanting the research there and one thing that blew me away was when Joel Salatin the farmer was on here and he said that we don't have a production problem of food because if we doubled the food production today overnight not a single other belly would get fed because half the food we produce gets thrown away so we have a distribution issue it's not a production its distribution issue and I was like that is amazing I think that's true I I he also I'm yeah i think he was oversimplifying his own message because he definitely his whole thing is the production as well and III think I think you know it's it's holistic right its production its distribution its marketing and and and its consumption and we all have to take responsibility for the part that we're part of and be cognizant of where we're spending our money as we vote in the in the supply chain you know on the production side you know conventional agriculture and conventional meat is the largest contributor of greenhouse gases over any other industry by an order of magnitude like that's got to change like we can't do it the way we're doing it and feed seven and a half billion people without destroying the entire environment and the same thing to your point on the distribution side we throw a lot of food away on the marketing side you know you look at when you know we started you know when there was a billions of dollars started to be spent in the 80s around selling you know low-fat complex carb diets and you look at the rise in the spending of that type of message to the American consumer and how it correlates to the rise of obesity diabetes and they're they're very correlated that's the marketing side and then on the consumption side you know ultimately we are responsible for ourselves and we have to gain mastery over our design as human beings and and and if there's going to be a Twinkie or an apple you know we have to like be able to like restrain ourselves and go for the Apple so ganar when you're thinking about environmental or sustainability or production like what we're just talking about and I know you're right in the heart of it with thrive market and everything do you see any big myths still being out there what do you think is the biggest myth floating on it out there I mean I think the end of the day we have to recognize that we are part of a very interconnected world at this point and the actions that we make individually and the actions that we may collectively have massive impact on our own lives on the economy on the environment and people all over the world and so and I think about food you know it's like to me it's critical that we think about the way we produce distribute and market and consume the food so on the production side you know conventional agriculture and you know factory farming of animals particularly is the largest contributor of greenhouse gases over an order you know over any other industry by an order of magnitude on the distribution side to your point you know we throw away half the food that we produce on the marketing side you know you look at the rise of you know billions of dollars of cpg advertising in the 80s around selling the idea that we have you know a low-fat complex carb diet and you look at how it correlates to obesity and diabetes and then on the consumption side as consumers ultimately you know no matter how much anybody tries to like sell us their you know process toxic no toxic sugary thing we have ultimate control over what we do when you have to take total responsibility for ourselves and so when there's a Twinkie in front of us or an apple in front of us you know we we need to we need to be able to develop a level of mastery so that we go for the apple instead of the Twinkie and and I think it's a holistic thing yeah before the call we were talking about how we evolved and then the agricultural revolution and kind of the direction of where we're heading because like we were just saying in this whole call it's a crazy world we're living in technology's changing everything we got all those different components where do you see this thing how are we going to be able to feed the growing population of the world yeah well I think it's it's to me that's like that's a question that I like live with every day and I think about it I'm constantly adding to my thesis around it I think you know just even to take a step back it's so interesting just to kind of look at the context of where we've come and how we've arrived at situation that we're in you know we we've been on the planet for about 190,000 years as this form in this species it seems like a long time it's actually a very short period of time and let billions of geological earth years and for the majority of that time that we've been here on the planet you know we have been hunter-gatherers moving from place to place harvesting the natural fruits of the land eating a very simple diet which was actually very good for us physiologically what had you know a good blend of nutrients but you know we had less than a billion of us pretty consistently on the planet in terms of the success of our species and it really was only with the advent of agriculture that we saw this incredible transformation take place for our species and that's really that's really happened in the last 5,000 years you know we started to produce food and create an agricultural framework that caused us to move to urban environments allowed us to be able to support much higher population densities because we could consistently produce greater scale of food in a very concentrated way and that gave birth to the civil a civilization that we enjoy and that we interact with today whether it's our clothes or cars or computers or the problems that we face or the opportunities that we have you know these are all from a vacant basic fundamental architectural level that this is empowered because we have developed an industrial agricultural process but I think when we look at that and we think about where we've come from where we're going you know for the the majority of our time here we've been less than a billion people on the planet and in the last 5,000 years with the advent of agriculture we've gone from a billion to seven and a half billion with the majority of that happening in the last 75 you know 75 years to the World War to World War two they were like two billion of us on the planet and fast forward you know 70 years to twenty thousand and sixteen and there's seven and a half billion of us on the planet probably going to 10 or 12 billion in the next 15 or 20 years and so the very innovation and agriculture that has made our species so successful is now poised to take us down on so many different vectors and and so it's this amazing moment where we have to radically shift the way that we are producing distributing and consuming food if we want a passive world to our children and their children that's healthy and equitable and and a great place to be so to kind of frame it do you think if we kept doing exactly what we're doing today in 10 years 20 years time we would start seeing bigger issues than we do now oh oh yeah I mean like you know you look at what I'm you look at you look at like I mean look that you look at like the way nature has pandemics that modify population levels when they're not healthy you look at the fact that you know most major ecosystems have either collapsed or on the verge of collapsing you look at the fact that we're spending 300 billion dollars a year fighting diabetes related illnesses which is you know just one of several major lifestyle diseases which are ravaging our populations our communities in our economy so you know we will bankrupt ourselves both in terms of our physical health and well-being the economy and the environment if we continue the way that we're going and that that's happening very quickly I mean let's just look at the last 20 years what has happened with obesity cancer heart disease diabetes you know these are lifestyle diseases and and you know we that the good news is that we actually know what we need to do we need to develop a measure of self-restraint we need to empower ourselves with the tools and information and access and we need to be able to eat simpler healthier food and just those things are going to have such a massive impact on us individually and collectively in this very interconnected world that we live in it's an interesting issue with like obesity and diabetes and change because now in the u.s. at least speaking where I've been I've been traveling around the west coast this year and being in kind of small towns been still seeing like gardens and still seeing coops where you can buy healthy food and seeing lots of healthier options everywhere but that doesn't that doesn't necessarily correlate with lower obesity rates or lower diabetes rates and stuff and so I'm I'm wondering like even though I know it's not everywhere but even though a majority of the u.s. you're able to get these healthier organic foods or healthier grass-fed meats or whatever like what the missing link is there between why more people aren't taking advantage of that do you see on try I yeah I mean there's clearly a proliferation like we've now have access to these things in a way that we haven't even 20 years ago I think though it's still very early on and when we think about act you know for us and there's so many different ways of thinking about these things and there's no absolutes but the way that we think about access and making healthy living accessible easy and affordable to everybody we think about it across three vectors you know access for us as a function of price geography and education can we sell previously premium products at the same price as conventional equivalents and the answer is often yes we sell a kind bar for the same price as a Snickers bar we sell 70 loads of non-toxic laundry detergent for less than a big box retailer sells 70 loads of laundry detergent with hormone and endocrine disruptors geography you know can people everywhere access healthy food regardless of whether they're in a food desert whether they're in a rural environment whether they have the time whether they don't have the car reliable transportation and you know the answer is we're working on that we can ship healthy food same price as conventional equivalents to people nationally wherever they are even if they're in a food desert or they don't have a car that on a time and then I think the final ingredient is education you know you can have all these great choices in front of us to your point and if we don't understand why it matters we will never make choice to empower ourselves and I think that's such a fundamental part of this you know one of this one aspect of this is like a purely like technical supply chain issue about pricing and availability another is just like looking at the underlying emotional issues and empowering ourselves like I used to be overweight and I was very depressed and and that doesn't mean that that's what it is for everybody but that was what was going on for me and you know food was like it still have to like catch myself like it's like if I'm feeling stressed out or sad or upset or overwhelmed I go to food and I put something in my mouth and like that's that's like you know that's like a very basic like thing that you know we're all confronted with that in our own way and so I think that you know when we think about education you know we're thinking about how do we provide content that informs and inspires people that really inspires people to challenge themselves to think about what what actually matters to them what makes them feel good in their bodies and you're part of this conversation I mean this this type of content what you do this podcast I mean this is part of the bleeding edge of this incredible educational content revolution that's happening and which is made possible by the internet so i think you know again is the darkest dark the light is like as there's so many challenges and crises there's such an explosion of innovation and it is these types of conversations and the burning desire that we have within us and so many of us to try to like solve these problems and improve our lot as a human being that is ultimately going to get us through but it's going to take a lot of application work and discipline to get it done like to speak on your point about the emotional component psychological component of eating forget who i was talking to but he was like Clark it's such a big issue because think if you think about it food is the last awesome thing we have complete and utter control over as adults without judgment like you can't just go smoke a pack of cigarettes when you're feeling stressed without people judging you you can't just go drink alcohol without people judging you insert the blank but food you know have at it like it's totally fine if you're in society's eyes if you're pounding down a two liter and a bag of chips like it's okay um so there's a huge like emotion lever that you can just pull at any time that is a hard component of it we're also confronted with like our like pure animal physiological evolutionary process right like we again we were not like for the majority of our time here and the majority of mammals before us you know which we've inherited that operating system into the synthesis of our species we would not encounter sugar and processed food the way that we do so like you might find like some nice fruit in the jungle or on the plains and it would be consumed very quickly and intensely and then it was gone but to have this like massively sustained availability of these things all the time you know we're wired physiologically to gorge on them and that's why you know companies do what they do and they put like the Saudi and a lot of a lot of sugar and they and they they play to our physiological wiring to create intense habit formation around it and so I think you know I think it's a I think it's a really interesting thing and enter your point like eating food is a very like pleasurable thing I mean it's like for me personally I mean I love eating food I get a tremendous amount of pleasure when I heat food it's like you know it's almost as good as sex if not better a lot of times so it's you know food eating food is like fun it's good I don't think we have to give that up we just have to be more thoughtful about it depends on the food you're eating yeah absolutely so I'm really fascinated with your opinion on where do you think we're gonna be in 20 years from now I guess a realistic view and then an idealistic view if you want to just predict out in the future I I think you know I I think we're gonna do well I think we're gonna I think we're gonna get through it i think there's going to be a tremendous amount of disruption I think you know generally speaking there is a massive awakening happening people are aware that they need to be thinking about this there's also in parallel a real desire for transparency and authenticity you look at you know the types of social phenomenons that have happened in this last political process and you know dependent doesn't matter what your political disposition is that if you just look at the way Millennials and young people have been engaged in the way that they're seeking to bring meaning into their life and to be part of a larger framework of being part of benefit and service to something greater than our own self-interest all the time I think there's I think there's a really beautiful like revolutionary process that's happening there and it's happening in all of us in small and big ways and that I think is really positive and powerful and I think that that's going to play out you know and there's going to continue to be you know very significant challenges whether it's you know that the ink the sustained disruption to our Ecology's you know like where I live you know I have friends that are farmers and like they can't even grow food anymore like it is a major drought that it's now just been going on and on and on and they've never seen the types of conditions that the climate change this happened and you know maybe the pattern will snap back in and maybe it won't my personal sense is that there's going to be really systemic shifts to our ecology that are going to cause a lot of disruption to the the natural environment and and other living life forms and to us and that's going to be painful and disruptive but ultimately it's going to force us to get more serious and focused on the task at hand which is how do we actually create a world that is equitable for all of us and what I mean all of us it reflects the fact that we're part of an interconnected relationship with ourselves with each other and with all other living life and that we have all of the tools for us it is not a design problem right now I mean we we have solutions for every major problem that we face today and it is it is it is truly back to the point of distribution it is about connecting the dots between the suppliers between the makers between the consumers and the internet is speeding that up now and it's cutting out so many of the entrenched interests you know historically we have suffered under a situation where you've got intermediaries in the process that are protecting their interests and protecting the status quo and because the internet now exists today people can have a direct conversation with you through your podcast and they can be inspired and receive information that they would never get on a broadcast TV network because the broadcast TV network is afraid of jeopardizing their advertising from CPG companies and so the internet is empowering us to educate and live a better way and we you know we feel like the Internet's been around a long time it's just barely arrived the benefits of the internet are just barely here and the revolutionary impact is going to have on our lives is just still barely obvious and and we can't even predict all the ways it's going to be good for us yeah so true i still get blown away every time i think about the internet and that what is it ninety percent of the data has been generated in the last two years right or like a whole whole internet history just ninety percent was in the last 24 months and it gets more and more and more and more and more so we have no clue where it's gonna go what are maybe one or two things that people at home right now can do to i guess minimize their carbon footprints a good way to say it or to you know be a part of the solution instead of the problem in that 20 year time frame we're talking about do you have anything that comes to mind that they can start implementing or suggestions for them at home right now I mean like I I I can get on my soapbox all day about these things and I think I think there's so many different it's such a personal thing I think at the end of the day you know to the extent that we can educate ourselves and make small choices that have big impacts in way that we shift our diets it's it's real you know I i I'm paleo I eat I eat meat but I I have I'm really careful about where i get it and i don't i don't think we should be eating that much of it i just don't think the planet can support like massive systemic consumption of me that the types of quantities and scales that we've been expect as you know citizens and I think that letting you know just just again I'm not trying to harp on meat but that you know just animal factory farming is such a destructive force on the planet and if we're going to eat meat we got to make sure it's grass-fed but we need to eat it in moderation we need to you know understand our supply chains you know I saw some stats recently it doesn't matter how many short showers or you know priuses you drive or solar panels you have if we're eating massive quantities of meat it's like 10x the carbon impact on the environment then all of those things that could be done in aggregate yeah and that's how destructive animal factory farming is you know you know Joel Salatin you know he shows that you can actually produce me in a way that's ethical that thats you know really beautiful and actually acts as a carbon sequestration you know the way that he does mob hurting practices with his animal farming you know it makes the topsoil richer and the topsoil sequester's carbon and into the ground and and so you know eating me isn't inherently a bad thing but we have to change the way that we're doing it from the conventional supply chain yeah okay so getting off factory farming being more conscious of where we're sourcing our meat sources from big issue do you have any sources or places you get your meat from that you'd recommend you know I try to get local you know I try to like find you know and and and actually there's great there are great people online now that will ship grass-fed you have to watch out for the packaging because a lot of times there's like styrofoam and you know it's an area that we're personally studying you know how can we support our community with this because we recognize is that there isn't a really good ubiquitous Shin around this so you know we're studying it right now how can we ship you know ethically sourced lower priced high quality you know grass-fed and hormone-free and organic meats but I think in lieu of that you know i think you know we have to do the research we gotta search online you know ideally we get it from a local farmer you know that's always the best scenario but in a lot for a lot of people that's not possible and there are there are solutions online so I think it's just a matter doing the research so talking about thrive then your company I know you went from what 10 employees to like four hundred and a year yeah yeah we're it's been it's been a wild ride I mean where where I did not expect it to go the way that it has I mean where we're at a 550 employees to know so it's been it's been it's it's an incredibly humbling and exciting process and you know the truth of the matter is you know we actually need to become a thousand times bigger as a business if we're going to have a truly massive impact on the supply chain and you know I think I think we're the pieces in place to really grow dramatically and support this emerging population base that wants to vote with their dollars and wants to support conscious companies and wants to empower themselves with healthier food do you do anything since you're at the top or your you have a lot of bigger decisions you know to make at the company do you do anything that you've implemented the like stay grounded or keep yourself sane and not lose your minds like do you have any health practices I mean is it really simple like I try to get enough sleep I try to get enough exercise I sugar unfortunately I drink more caffeine than I should because i get into the office super early in the morning uh like a very practical thing for me is like I'm actually I try to be barefoot on the weekends really simple I get really frazzled by the end of the week I'm like completely my nervous system is like shot and literally like if I can like take my shoes off for a couple days and like go garden and move some rocks around in my garden and just like hang out outside barefoot I feel I feel more grounded and it sounds crazy but it's like it really helps me out a couple closing questions ganar ah you're talking to ganar street you know in college or in his 20s or early 30s what advice do you give him just starting out um what else is sorry maybe maybe frame that up again because I got I got a little stumped on that one yeah no worries so what so someone who's out there listening right now in the 20s or 30s what are some like what's a piece of advice you wish you knew back then or some wisdom or some insight you got now i would say follow your dreams absolutely follow your dreams completely and courageously and to me you know one of my teachers gave a great a great insight on courage your courage is not the absence of fear it is the willingness to push on and persevere in spite of the presence of fear and i think you know this is a world of so much change just because people say you can't do it or you shouldn't do it doesn't mean that that's right if you believe in it if you feel it's right in your heart and you feel like it's something that you absolutely want to do then you should be you should be courageously willing to step into it to fall down to pick yourself up over and over again to persevere towards that which you love and to follow your dreams and end it and to do it courageously and and that is a process of you know it takes a lot of you know willingness to deal with our shadows and our weaknesses and our insecurities that I deal with them every day all day long I'm constantly confronted even at this place of like procedure success and thrive I'm constantly confronted with my own insecurities my own doubts my own fears and I have to constantly remind myself that you know we stand on the shoulders of giants so many great people have calmed us and we can draw courage and conviction from those that have come from before us to really strike out in the things that we love and that we care for I solutely what do you think's have been the biggest lesson you've learned in 2016 so far like looking back on this year as anything stand out I think the they continued lesson for me a 2016 and just the journey of thrive in general is you know it's it's so powerful to have great partners to have people that you can just absolutely trust and it you know it requires giving us control in a certain way but the the exercise of that and having the camaraderie and the support and the honesty and the trust has been so powerful for our business it is a very complex business that we're in and we've grown very very quickly and the only reason we've been able to do it is because we have a culture of trust and real support among an incredible team of super talented people and you know it's only because we've been so focused on how do we absolutely bring the best people and it means that you know I bring in much more talented people than myself and I might have like momentary like insecurities about what that means and what's my role and I'm I'm into it at the beginning and then I'm threatened by it later and like you gotta had to go through like but that's like if you want to build a great thing or do a great thing whatever it is having great partners great people to work with is an amazingly active way to make it happen awesome uh thrive market where's the best place for people to to go learn about all the cool stuff you do and and your mission over there yeah I mean just you know on our website our thrive market com if you haven't you can get all your favorite healthy food at twenty-five to fifty percent off you know you can if you haven't bought from us before you get a free jar of organic coconut oil with your first purchase so you know we've got a great Facebook and Instagram channel you know we're there and we need everybody's help this is a movement like we are absolutely part of building a movement and we need everybody's help and really appreciate your time and honor to be here with you yeah it was a fun one man thanks for coming on again always enjoy our chats about a temperature and where this thing's going yeah it really just really appreciate it really appreciate your time and let's let's do it again in a few months awesome man until then right all right buddy Cheers ganar lovelace everybody great call he was on two years ago and we talked about a lot of other topics similar to this conversation so if you want to go back in the archives head over to paleo hacks com be sure you listen to that show or I guess you can type it in the search bar in itunes gonna or lovelace that's gon na are Lovelace paler hacks it should pop right up but last time on the show I listened to it I don't know about a week ago and he went over the fact that the average vegetable travels something like five thousand miles before it's consumed and how we're really bad at foreseeing far-off events and that's why we're okay with letting the environment kind of get polluted currently too because we're bad at predicting outwards in the future alright and so I was looking into this more and this whole like why are we bad up for seeing far-out events and I found some interesting research that I just haven't been able to really get out of my head the past week and it's been really a kind of eye-opening to me about why we make bad decisions now that impact us in the future this isn't some judgment I mean this is something we all do i do this more than anyone probably you know I'm constantly doing some self sabotage things that aren't healthy for me and so I found some insights that I just want to share at the end of this call because why not alright three out of four Americans have less than thirty thousand dollar saved for retirement and researchers found this the statistic and they asked that question that we were just talking about why are we bad at saving for the future if we plan on retiring which many of us do why do we not save more money and so they use that question and they took two different groups they found these groups who just got a new job and we're filling out their paperwork so that 401k how much do you want to save and they looked at that number now before they asked the people how much do you want to save monthly or annually for retirement they showed the first group a picture of their current self right and they said okay how much do you want this person to save for retirement now that group had an average of eighty dollars allocated a month towards their retirement out of their check what they did with the other group that was so fascinating as they used computer software or an app to project outward what that person would look like in 80 years time and they call that the me later group so they showed the same same question same application they said here's you at age 80 how much money do you want to save and that group saved an average of a hundred and seventy two dollars for retirement I mean that's over double what the me now group saved just seeing what it's going to look like at 80 doubled more than doubled the amount they were planning for and that's kind of why we're bad off or bad seeing far off events is because it's not real to us so when we can actually see a more real version of what we're going to look like down the road okay we'll change our actions in the present moment so how does that apply to our whole health and wellness conversation two applications of that I guess you could do that and think about it for your health like well how would you want to feel how do we want to feel at 80 years old and our is what we're doing currently going to get us there and the second is what do we want to plan it to look like when were 80 years old and it's what we're doing going to get us there and I don't really know how we can take the planet and put it in an aging booth so we get a more realistic viewpoint of it but you can do that for yourself I found a funny app it's called aging booth it's free on on the apple store and it does that it projects you outward 80 years and it's kind of a shock when you see yourself at 80 years old or what at that app thinks you're going to look like 80 years old anyway we'll wrap that up that was kind of the motivational speech at the end of this call is yeah it's it's cool that when we have real concrete evidence of what's going to happen in the future we will change our actions in the present Peter hacks com of course the place to go for the archives be sure you check out that previous show with ganar on about a year ago or 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