warning some of the rich mouth-watering meals you see on screen now are part of a controversial new diet though it's actually millions of years old it's sending shockwaves through the diet and weight loss industry because most people simply don't believe you could eat foods like this on any healthy plan or ever dream of losing weight yet the diet you're about to discover really isn't a diet at all it's actually return to what works naturally and that's why it works it's based on how we humans evolved for literally millions of years its wisdom lies in the fact that it ignores met contradictions discovered by doctors and nutritionists in the lab and takes us back to our room a time when nobody got that when we were all strong lean and had boundless energy and when there are no degenerative diseases with the true Paleo diet virtually every health benefit under the Sun can now be yours as I'm sure you've heard countless individuals around the world have turned to the Paleo diet and way of 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welcome to the primal show with your host myself heat Squire and today's guest Kacie Baylor and he is a certified personal trainer on nutrition coach author and writer for many different sites out there like greatest the pale of paleo magazine the Paleo diet the list kind of goes on and on very excited to have them on the show I don't know probably not a lot of people know about you yet but I think based on your busy schedule I think they're going to know about you very soon and I'm very glad to promote what you're doing here on the primal show tell us a little bit about yourself and kind of how you got into the Paleo diet and I'm with what you're up to right now sure thanks for having me all I really appreciated about folders left for a long time so it's honored to be here and I've got watch them the other shows so it's just kind of nice to be on so um well man I have I guess a pretty long interesting story i'll try to sum it up as quickly as i can so i was a certified personal trainer National Academy of Sports Medicine I was really into that i have about 85 personal training clients at the time and i was really in a nutrition all right i thought i was really into nutrition at with he's and i got my certification for that to become a fitness nutrition specialist and all of a sudden I found out that everybody in the world has questions about nutrition and once you get like something like that or you move into the well as soon as you're publicly like known as the nutrition person you end up getting like the floodgates open like everybody and like the relatives and everybody had questions for you so sure um I actually met the person i started my first business with who threw that Avenue because she was going to the same gym that I was a training out of and she is a molecular biology PhD and she was very deficient in CrossFit and all that was like a certified CrossFit coach and everything and we just sort of branched off into our own adventure and did like our own company and the personal training nutrition website all that's left writing and from and I just kind of we were both kind of control freaks so we we actually ended up going around separate ways because we just there was almost like too much too many things we wanted to do separately and like it was hard to agree on a lot of stuff and I'm sure you know how it got his loan oh yeah and I actually just started by writing to the editor of paleo magazine and said hey do you guys want any writers are you hiring basically asking for a job because I was doing my own website and training people still a little bit and but I was really looking to branch out and I'm thinking oh there was no way he'll reply and like that it would be a nice thing but that not really gonna think that's going to happen in like less than 20 minutes later he would fly with like a really awesome like interested email and I was kind of just like taking him back for a minute and i guess i just started through there and um you know the same thing sort of happened with dr. Cordain where i just wrote like a guest piece for them asking if they wanted any content and they loved it and they asked me to write for them every week oh uh yeah i've gotten sort of like out of nowhere i went from being like somebody that like nobody knew who I was like it all to like now I have all these amazing opportunities and I've written like actually five books for and we're going to come out and it's just been incredible and sort of like mind blowing up fast so this happened and like I haven't had time to really process some of it any time off or anything and so it's been really cool but um I guess I found the pillar dive through my old business partner and i was already eating you know with the standard american diet like bodybuilding diet which everybody thinks is like super healthy and was really lean and i'm pretty good shape and everything but um I was just blown away because like little things went away like my allergies one away and like I was sleeping better and like I was performing better and I got even leaner and more muscular so it was great but I wasn't a believer at first I actually was pretty skeptical so um and then I read some doctor burnings papers actually and that sort of changed my mind a little bit too if you have the diligence to sit there and read through all those papers in detail I think it makes people appreciate what's going on a little bit more so yeah I always I always say you know just because you have a six-pack doesn't make you healthy but you know cuz a lot of guys there you know we're just bombarded with muscle fitness magazines a lot of bodybuilders are using steroids and so forth and they have extremely high blood pressure so even though they have this great anabolic look to themselves you know they're extremely unhealthy and sure they cycle off and they give their body a break but there what I'm really into nowadays is how do you boost your testosterone level into the seven and eight hundreds and and which is really that ideal kind of anabolic rings you know I would really say the high end of 800 830 something like that and how do you do it naturally sure you can exercise and you get rid of the excess fat that's going to help boost your testosterone but how as a normal guy without supplementary are taking you know hormone replacement therapy which is so prevalent now which is really just do to people being overweight i think it's like oh I'm overweight my testosterone slow but that's because your estrogen levels through the roof and you have excess fat and so you know I actually met with the head of endocrinology at kaiser and I was like actually I love bouncing questions off of the endocrinologist because they're always really lean and really uh just fit and because they know how hormones work and what this guy said is is you know eat broccoli you know drop the fat your testosterone level is going to come back up and I started doing some research on how to push down the estrogen level and how to naturally boost testosterone and I don't know if you have any experience with this but I found two things right now tongkat Ali which is lone jack which is a root horny goat weed is another one to really push levels up and then there's things like in doll three carbon all there's just some great natural anti-estrogen to push down the estrogen level and push up the testosterone and because the reason this is so important I i feel is because people lack motivation to get in the gym and the fur place I mean wait what do you think about that because I just feel America is such a mess with with our hormones and he and I look at people and I was like man only if that guy knew how easily he could get rid of his his man boobs and it would feel so much better you know and I don't mean to pick on people but I legitimately want to help people you know because I found this out for myself and I found it out because my dad was overweight he carried a lot of weight in his stomach and his hormones were out of whack and that really sent me on this path well what do you thought there's so much there I want to tackle so personally one of the I wouldn't say he was an early client but one of the people i had like fairly early on was actually really interesting guy I've had so many interesting people to work with and that that really helps you learn a lot of things quickly to seeing it in real life I used to play professional baseball for I won't give his name obviously would like to really big teams and he would tell me how like the first thing I did when they got it from the minor leagues to the majors was like okay you go down that hallway and everybody basically just gets injected like it was just steroids and the mid-90s I was just like what you did so he was able to get away with like he may look a ton of money and all this stuff and he blew through a lot of it because his lifestyle was so poor but he was able to get away with it because he was on s teroids so basically anything he did he would still be relatively okay and then what happened was when he retired and got off of the off of stairs and everything his body just got so out of whack and like went into this horrible situation and his cholesterol was really high assessed ostrom was like a 15 year old girl and like if you just see kind of came to means like I don't know what to do and I made him get more panels and everything made sure everything was like relatively like workable and yeah he just had no idea how to eat which I thought was so funny and like I was able to work as somebody that was like you look at this guy you'd be terrified I mean he's like the 6 foot 6 like 300-pound guy all muscle and you just had no idea how to like make a sandwich or like a salad or any like anything at all i was amazed and so is caboose really great to work with him you're talking about testosterone that sort of thing and there's so many things that can go wrong with the body right and you said endocrinology it's kind of funny i was looking at medical school to be a pediatric endocrinologist and also if you know what that is it's basically working with really obese like four and five year old kids and they need all the help they can get and it's sort of the same situation where they have no idea how to eat a lot of times it's poor you know economic situations where the parents can't for good food or there's just no food around them and once you understand like endocrinology even at a basic level like you can do so much more with helping people with their diet and realizing they're not sleeping enough they're not drinking enough water they're exercising too much and there's like a million things that can go wrong a technology wise so it's really interesting and I think that may be the biggest thing would just be that I see in the Paleo community a lot still is people that try to go to low carb and also do like CrossFit at the same time which is like a recipe to like that your testosterone like solo you can't even function and there's this thing actually called the free testosterone and cortisol ratio and if you over train which crossed with on very low carb diet would be over training and you have no carbs you're going to feel so out of whack and going to be so stressed all the time but eventually you basically just collapse I've had those people to where they just come to you and they have no testosterone at all and they're stressed all the time and if if their lifestyle is already stressful it's not a good idea to partake in that sort of experiment in everybody's life style I found these days is so stressful matter what they're doing unless they literally remove like everything except like sleep and work and that's so rare these days it's like the media cell phones you know how it goes so yeah there's so much there i would love to expound on but i won't you i mean it's so you brought up cortisol and free testosterone levels and if you haven't had the chance to google some of the clinical studies of tongkat ali specifically it reduces cortisol so you end up getting a very lean midsection you boost your free testosterone levels and it was actually the clinical study was done on a hypo gonad hypogonadal patience so it actually improved the testosterone level despite it and that's usually hypogonadal go now it is amiss a something that happens when you do you know testosterone usually and so it's actually able to counteract it and end up reversing it so I've really I actually you know started giving this to some of my friends and stuff and they've seen tremendous gains and it's something that's all natural that really I've seen a big increase and then you touched on you know kind of doing low carb CrossFit I think a lot of people you're right you look at the sedentary lifestyle of a lot of people that are preaching the low-carb diet and that's just it they want to lose weight and they don't want to be very active and or if they are trying to be active then they don't have the energy level to do it and what I started doing because I do follow a low-carb diet and it's a paleo one at that I started implementing carbs directly after a workout which is some people like to load before I like to load right after during like I call it the anabolic window phase which some people may or may not believe exists but personally I found that I've gotten leaner stronger and more defined muscle while loading like sweet potato mixed with egg whites right after that and I'll do that directly after really intense exercises and when I say intense like eight hundred thousand calorie kind of workouts have you done any research on that specific window and is there a kind of opportune time to take in carbs because we both know low carb diets work but I think they have to be done properly yeah I should have specified to I meant to say very low carb diet so I mean ketogenic diet I don't mean like 150 grams of carbs i mean like 60 grams of carbs like at type like atkins level of carbs that's where you crash and burn when you're really trying to do like glycogen demanding work and you don't have any like carbs it can really be bad on but yeah there is it's sort of mixed as far as the anabolic window goes some researchers will say yes this definitely exists and this is how we showed it and some will say we're not so sure that it exists I think what generally works really well in real life for most people is just a consistent die and whenever you're taking in the carbs stick with that time no matter what day it is even if you're not working out I think for most people works pretty well unless you want to get in and really and some people do like to do this where you start to maybe become more cognizant of wine exactly you're eating and what exactly you're eating but for the people I've worked with because it's such a wide variety of people that have like really stressful jobs or like two or three kids or you know crazy schedules just getting them the off like processed food and just getting them to like even eat like real food even if it's not paleo just getting away from like lunchables and that sort of thing it's really like the big win that you want to get you that can take like six months to get some people just off that stuff and then you can start tweaking it a little bit and I think the pillow community does sort of get lost sometimes because they just disregard all calories and you know calories still definitely count and you can't ignore like your hormonal response to food obviously but calories still count and I remember some of the first people I had that I try to do like a paleo diet they would just load up on like two jars of almond butter after three meals and under like why am I not losing weight I'm like well if you still need to count like I still haven't like the old school and track your calories and you oh my God thank you for validating that point we did a whole I've done numerous episodes on that fact and and people don't like to talk about calories they will come up with all these other observe things and at the end of the day as you know it's really calories in versus calories out because you can lose weight on even a twinkie diet although you wouldn't be healthy you could lose weight and the guy went out and did it you know we don't know exactly how I did it but in theory it can be done and what I what I see is these other these people in the paleo industry that are actually pretty you know well-known there's only a lot of books is they're selling a lie and the lie really is that hey you can reach your goal by consuming like maple syrup honey and and and I've had my personal family members go out and buy these people's books and they end up gaining weight and it's like they're there are trying to lose that baby fat and stuff like that and yet these people are givi ng the recipes that are setting people up for a disaster and and it's like and I personally get my company and me personally we both get attacked because I go after it offer these people and one of the things is is like practice what you preach you know if if you're going to be in the a diet movement which you know Paleo diet is a change in your diet right a change from the mainstream way of eating to a paleo one sure there is autoimmune protocols and things like that where you're doing it for health but if you're doing it to lose weight and you're out there pushing losing weight then you need to practice what you preach so if you are a gaining weight by what you're recommending then you probably either aren't following your own advice or you're consuming too much sugar and it's just sad because you you see at first hand these people are confused and actually I read your site which is awesome by the way and so many people that they're dealing with the confusion you speak to that on your site because they're like well I thought honey you know paleo cookies we're gonna get me to my goal haha oh there's so much I want to touch on there that's like one of my pet peeve questions so I've had I've been really lucky to have the perspective maybe that work with people directly so like real life people which are never ever like scientific studies right there so complicated and complex and everything's changing all the time day to day even and I've been able to go into the research to an extreme level of detail so like I know pretty much I would feel comfortable saying almost every answer like scientifically to some degree um but getting that in practice is so different than people that I feel like our keyboard warriors where they just sit there and they type stuff out day after day and they never interact like an actual person you're like praying an athlete to get really close to their competitive goals because there's so many different things you have to do and there's so many things that can go wrong but really all the matters is like food quality right at the end of the day you could be eating whatever diet you want to call it but all it really matters is food quality and not too many calories basically if you're talking about weight loss and time and time is the one thing that people never ever want to give it and that's really frustrating from something that's work with clients is like compliance and patience is so hard to find but yeah you're right there's stuff I got attacked pretty vigorously for that honey post that you mentioned particularly and the bottom line is if you look at the science of it's not very good for you and it's mostly fructose and your body doesn't process fruit to us like it processes glucose and it's not all that complicated actually but you wouldn't believe the kind of feedback I got for that that was negative that's the only one I've ever gotten as a really negative vibe oh man I think i retweeted that was great love because they were like that's exactly correct with the people that wanted to eat like cookies every day didn't you know dr. Cordain was on our show and he said fructose is fructose you know sure I mean honey is a better option I think in an extreme moderation because if you even think about the caveman which I usually don't reference the caveman because we're in the modern day society but if you were to think about how often I got honey it would be few and far between and that guy was living a long time off of what he gorged himself on to the point where you you then start thinking about intermittent fasting and how often caedmon probably did in internment fast between his meals and that's probably one of the reasons why he was so shredded and then you start thinking about well captain died at 35 years old and I was like yeah but um there was no modern medicine there it's like I really just avoid that that all together and to say look we live in today's time and you start focusing these people that are stuck in this old way of thinking into a modern one and how do you transition a person from a modern way of eating to a paleo one and how do you make it easy now I've know you I know I've seen that you've I interviewed people from the whole 30 which i think is a great very extreme plan for people for 30 days one of the problems I have with the whole 30 is not nothing wrong with the actual eating style it's that it it only sets people up for 30 days and everybody I've talked to you that's been on it's like I feel amazing and guess what they it up reverting right back to the the way they gained all the way back and they went right back to the way eating what I preach is a way to maintain paleo every day for either moms or dads are on the go and it gives you the foods that you're used to you know without them being bad for you without them being packed with sugar you know things like organic stevia leaf and monk fruit are now among the great you know ingredients that we get to choose upon and it's like people are fighting it's like why are you fighting something that is like it's good for you you know it's like and then people start getting it confused with sucralose or splendas like oh my god it's we have such a great array of ingredients nowadays that we never used to have and it makes um eating a healthy I would say a healthy carb kind of a healthy low carb diet very easy um what is your take on the ketogenic diet and matching that with paleo because personally I love being in the ketogenic like have fat burning mode constantly and outside of anabolic Linda I wouldn't consume carbs that would spike my blood sugar outside of that window and when I do it's a strictly sweet potato or resistant starch like you know something like that so what are your thoughts and there's so much there so firstly I have to say that it's really been awesome to write for dr. Cordain it's a really big opportunity there is definitely stuff that I would disagree with him on but I tend to think maybe I don't even use the word paleo very much I don't have it in my title of my sight or anything like that I really just help people eat real food right because at the end of the day getting them away from like McDonald's and processed food is really what you want to be doing and then so like I would direct people to Matt lalonde I don't know if everybody knows him he's a PhD at Harvard University in organic chemistry and he doesn't have a book he doesn't have a website he doesn't have anything really to sell and he just gives you I mean some people would say it's a really too detailed tific analysis but who'll say like these are the foods it'll probably work best for you here's what you should probably do it's not going to work for everybody but you know you have to figure it out for yourself but here's like a pretty good starting place and I he's a really good guy that I think a lot of people should start referencing or looking to I know some people do robb wolf obviously does and Rob's awesome too but then for the whole 30 I guess to the roundabout way to get to that would be you have to meet people where they're at right so some people if they have a history of like disordered eating should stay very far away from stuff for its really restrictive because it can sometimes worse than the problem that being said some people do really well in the whole 30 that used to be you know really bad with eating disorders so it's a very much like N equals 1 you have to figure out where the person is what their history is what other stressors do they have in their life what kind of personality do they have it's it's one of those situations where it's you really do want to work with somebody one-on-one for the most part yum like you said one other thing off to tell you from having been in nutrition world like in them in a big sense for li ke just over a year now is that people are so silly with some of the stuff that they argue about and if look my mind I'm like a regular basis like I remember thinking when I was working with only with clients all day I'm like I never got any of these questions this is insane like these people are debating most of it doesn't matter at all like right up so it is kind of annoying I've got saved from time to time like I don't spend very much time on social media just because can't really stand a lot of it um I know it probably helped my business and all that by that and it just feels like people are arguing about things that don't really matter at the end of the day and the key to Jack diet to get to that question uh I've seen some people do really well with it I've also some scenes in people totally destroy themselves on it so it's very much like individualistic people that have a really hard time with sugar if you can get them to actually like follow really good like well thought out well tracked by like a medical professional ketogenic diet and they feel okay doing it they usually see a pretty incredible turnaround um but there's also like long-term questions I got to interview dr. Perlmutter when his came out last year and everybody I kind of asked around like to my friends Melissa Hartwig was one of them and I said what do you want me to ask him like what do you think would be a good question asked me was one of my first interviews and I really had no idea what people wanted to see I know what I wanted to see but it wasn't necessarily what would be like the general question and everybody across the board said how do you do this kind of diet for an athlete I don't think it's really maintainable in the long term and he kind of just danced around it and actually he's a really cool guy and like it was a really nice interview but he definitely didn't have an answer to that question so I would say the key gen diet you have to be very careful if you're you want to be somebody that's doing a lot of glycogen independent activity or you have a pretty high stress lifestyle or you don't have time to adapt to like a five or six day period of just feeling really kind of not great I'd be careful with it because you can definitely screw yourself up like a lot of different ways with the Cajun anxiety if you have like micronutrient deficiencies if you're not getting enough vitamins and minerals somehow like a lot of people do it after getting really psyched about reading like a blog post and then they destroy themselves like three months later and they come to me and they have like no cortisol they have no testosterone you know there's like terribly across the board like read it out and like terrible so I'm not shut it out like the Arnold's life well that's that's the problem is there's a there's another area of confusion where people are consuming too many calories well way too much fat above and beyond what they need to and then there again you have people that are from you know preaching ketogenic and yet they're gaining weight on it and these are the authors of this movement I was like oh man this is crazy like they're here there is a limit you know in in nature you know you really don't see anything with more than fifty percent fat anyway so that being said I've really gone on to the premise where um I do follow a paleo diet like firm from an allergy point of view from anti-inflammation point of view but even in my own diet with just to regulate my lean asst I do my adjust my fat level and I do this because body building 101 states before a show what do you cut out you cut out the fat and it shreds at emit tremendous amount of weight from your body and all of a sudden you become defined in lean and it's almost like I wouldn't I don't really do in intermittent fasting but following a low-carb low-fat diet really leaves you with fiber and high protein and carbs from vegetables so all of a sudden your calories drop way down your protein and fiber increase fiber therefore to curb your appetite and the protein to actually will still give you the energy you need I've actually gone to a 3 day like paleo low-carb low-fat diet followed by a four-day kind of a higher fat version and I never have to think about weight again and and I feel great and I'm constantly revving my metabolism by doing this because I'm not over in inundating my body with too much fat or too many calories what do you think of that approach well there's a lot going on there um so you're definitely right in the traditional sense the body builders would always do like a cutting phase right before a show that sort of thing and what I could tell you just from working and having friends that are bodybuilders too is like they have some of the wharfs eating patterns across the board like in general so many issues with food now that they don't admire their doing because that's really amazing dedication and that sort of thing but yeah they I mean I've seen crazy quote-unquote refeed days where it's like 40,000 calories and it's like pizza and like all kinds of stuff so like I from the general client I guess I sort of steer them towards like basically I was going to say to is like more vegetables and you're not eating nearly enough protein they're definitely not eating enough complete proteins you're eating like chickpeas which aren't really I mean some vegetarian people will say it's a complete protein is really not if you look at the data and that's like the best protein they're getting and it's like 16 grams a day or something it's like first of all the reason you're probably overeating is because you're getting like no protein at all so you're not going to feel satiated and you're getting no vegetables or fiber so of course you're not going to feel full so they end up eating like three boxes of cheez-its and they're like I'm still hungry and I'm also like malnourished and I'm like I'm not surprised because you're even like nothing so across the board that's what I see like not nearly enough protein not nearly enough vegetables and all the data by the way I later found out backs all that up what i was seeing like anecdotally from working with people so um what does in terms of the concept though of you got to give it to bodybuilder so now given they have you know a lot of horrible eating patterns and i don't really believe you have to bulk up that much and all that they do but i think the concept of dropping the fat to drop weight quickly can be applied to the paleo diet or one that is looking to lose weight specifically while increasing protein go ahead walk you mean dropping fat or dropping car dropping fat because you're dropping so you know before a bodybuilding competition what did what all these guys do they they start eating egg whites the chicken and the vegetables do you mean like the 80s dropping fattening yeah yeah ok so now and they're doing that to why drop their calories which in turn drops the fat and it drops it fast too so what i started doing was playing around with this three days of a low carb low fat diet high protein high fiber still no sugar and followed by just a regular paleo diet with regular amounts of fat but still keeping the sugar low and i just noticed a tremendous improvement in my metabolism I really never have to think about gaining way or my way at all and I'm maintain a six-pack year-round by eating in the style and it was simply from that that concept of dropping the fat and why they do it and once again it goes into that calories in calories out and it works guess what every single time but can I and I and I feel great during the day I have you know when I talk about protein I'm I'm about 190 pounds right now so I'm taking in two plus grams of protein per per pound that I way and I'll do that through protein powders chicken steak I like to rotate my proteins have y ou played around with that at all by dropping the fat levels to basically drive somebody to like a weight-loss goal uh depends usually for weight loss you see dropping the carbs is a lot more effective as long as you don't drop them too low and again like you said ultimately it's really just getting them off sugar or as low as you can make sugar and be like a piece of fruit or something but that's such a struggle for most people but they'll drop you know really quickly that way a low fat I've only seen like you said with bodybuilders where they're really dedicated and able to control their diet really well and are very disciplined already so for them it's like you said not much of a change and they can easily stick with it but for most actual people that are like not bodybuilders oh man there I think it would be extremely difficult for them because usually what's lacking is like a focus on like steady disciplined habits with eating right so um it's it's very tough usually I recommend for those people just to go lower sugar by proxy lower carb and just getting some healthy fats in there usually people are lacking in healthy fats like almost completely to not only deficient and protein and too many carbs when not nearly enough healthy fats they don't even know what healthy fats are sometimes depending on who the person i'm starting with is so in the brain is what sixty percent fat seventy percent fat a member the exact percentage but you need a decent amount of fat just to keep things going and you know cholesterol people worry about cholesterol but it's it's actually if you're eating really healthy fats like eggs and that sort of thing you're going to do fine and dietary cholesterol has very little to do with the serum cholesterol so there's so many like misnomers i'm constantly fighting on a daily basis with people and they have bad information or incomplete information and you know it's a struggle when you working with real people it honestly is um but the animals oh that some of the best clients I've ever had because they'll do exactly what you tell them to do and they'll be very interested in knowing why it works and they'll listen to you go on about the mostly new detail in the world and they're very receptive and I just worry sometimes because some of them are like super into it and they're not professionals they're like going to be amateur or whatever and that's really great but I just worry I'm like go outside and like do something fun for a while like it's okay look after chicken breasts or Stefan almonds instead of six it's alright like so you know that's what I've seen I mean as as as person busy as I am in and you know a a daughter and everything that I got going on my life it's really about when I go in to train and work out and I think imma like a lot of people how can I get the maximum benefit from my workout and one of the ways is keeping your estrogen low your testosterone high naturally if all possible and following this kind of paleo approach that that is lowering carbs or consuming the carbs in the proper time frame so that way when you do workout you actually see the results because so many people year after year or working out and they never see the results and they just they're eating so they're working out so they can eat what they want and I'm sure you see a lot of that and if they're just cuz constantly stuck in the circle and it's like they have no idea how good they could really feel that's what I think the we're talking about the whole 30 earlier and I'm you know there's definitely things they're somewhat not great about approaches like that but what I think is amazing for a lot of people is that they like you said they don't realize what they're missing out on until they get to like day 13 or something and they're like oh my god I feel incredible I haven't felt like this since I was like 12 years old or something and like you said we go back to endocrinology their hormones are usually so far out of whack their stress is so high and like you said also a lot of the time you only have 20 30 minutes to get a workout in and you have to get the most you can out of it so um I think if people just refocus a lot of their discipline on to like just getting a good diet going and like stuck with it for a month and like didn't worry too much about the details or like falling off the wagon once or twice they would start to feel a lot better and there's really nothing to obsess about on that approach and then they could start to fine-tune and if they wanted to but a lot of the times people just want to feel better and like you said lose a little bit of weight and so many people are stuck in like the I need to lose 10 pounds thing where they like they'll lose it and then two weeks later they'll gain it back and they just sort of repeats for the rest of their life and it's they just have no idea how to actually lose it like steadily but slowly and really in like a healthy way where you're gaining muscle and losing fat and the long term be able to stay with it so um yeah there's just so much there that is that can go wrong and a lot of its advertising to like advertising like hyper palatable foods right so this is a fun thing I have people do all the time count how many times if you drive to work some people don't drive to work anymore they bike or whatever but count how many times you see an ad for fast food a processed food or soda on the way to work and I guarantee you if you have to drive more than 10 or 20 minutes it's going to be like over a hundred times just on your way to work to and from work every day are you so there's no ads for like spinach there's no ads for like kale there's no ads for broccoli and people have usually pretty blown away by that like I never thought of it like that I'm like well duh like what do you think's going on oh it's so bad I mean I recently just went to SeaWorld and Legoland it's like they have nothing like you walk into the market and they have chocolate covered marshmallows right like the first thing with sprinkles on it for your kids so of course they want that first and it's like they're not even trying I mean there's really no options there and it's like you're forced to eat this unhealthy food and so much of the food you know really is packed with antibiotics and and um I started doing a lot of research on basically enzymes and our our gut health and how important it is especially as we age to really improve our enzyme consumption are probiotics as we age because so many people let's say let's face it they all everybody drinks maybe you know once a week you know sometimes people drink a lot more or even it's every now and then or maybe they used to drink a lot in the past so drinking is just a part of society and it's going to be there but as we age what we're really doing is we're killing off those good bacteria in our stomach and what I found was by replacing them and really you know taking like an HCL beating I have this HCL activator which really helps break down even more and then followed by some enzymes I use apple cider vinegar sometimes Swedish better is even and I've paid special attention to my digestion I've noticed more definition in my six-pack I've noticed more energy and instead of using like you know like a colon cleanse and stuff like that to constantly flush stuff out which a lot of people do they're not actually digesting their food they're not getting the energy out of it and that's when you notice that they're not you're not seeing any sort of definition in your muscles because they're not digesting so I read a couple of your articles on digestion and you talked about apple cider vinegar and also HDL betaine and I had an issue where before I read your article even I had too much acid you know and for whatever reason I started taking HCL beating mix with a digestive and it went away and I had been using apple cider vinegar up until that point and it was kind of working but nothing worked as good as as the HCL betaine which is you would think you're you're actually adding more acid into the equation but you're really not that's interesting I work can you speak to to digestion overall and kind of I think it's a real way to kind of increase your metabolism and it's something that a lot of people don't even even think about and you have any thoughts on that oh sure there's there's so much there so firstly I have to give credit to rob wolf for discovery of the betty-ann hydrochloride back this is way back when not I got introduced to the Paleo concept i literally just went through every single podcast and I think I even read the transcripts for some because I liked reading it instead of hearing it Rob finally goes off on tangents which are entertaining but you can get lost in what he's actually saying so I remember reading that and I'd never heard of it before and I was like that's interesting let me try it myself and it definitely improved my digestion it's really easy to recommend to anybody it's not very expensive which they're really also a nice thing for people um but the gut actually is become sort of like the trendy thing in paleo right in 2015 is like the gut microbiome all that stuff and there's so much research that's already been there for like 10 or 15 years that people just haven't paid attention to but if you talk to scientists they've been discovering this stuff since at least like two thousand and how much the gut can actually affect your mood you're thinking your appetite depression all kinds of things so all of its there and what's interesting I guess to most people is that you can literally change what you want to eat how hungry you are what foods you'll crave whether or not your body can process calories more efficiently or not just by changing your gut population right so probiotic is by far the most widely recommended thing I tell people to take when I first start working with them because you know usually they've had a lifetime of antibiotics right and broad spectrum antibiotics to where they're just killing everything indiscriminately so you're killing off all the good stuff to you do that for 20 30 years of course you're going to have like no good gut population of bacteria left because what are you eating that's going to repopulate it no one's eating sauerkraut on a daily basis like they should be I know because I'm talking to them yeah so it's a it's one of the things they really turned people around really quickly a lot of times and I actually have a relative with crohn's disease and I have been begging her for months like probably yours at this point just try like 30 days do like a whole 30 whatever and you have to follow it a little bit more closely because you have an autoimmune disease and take like a probiotic and she just won't do it for some reason that blows my mind and I'm seeing your gain weight I'm seeing around all these medications but it's bearable and it's just like you know your family's the hardest to convince right so but um yeah I think in like 10 years it'll just be common sense and like the scientific community and you're sort of seeing that go from like fringe this could be quackery to like obviously this has some benefits to like standard accepted practice in like 10 years I would say so but the gut health stuff is really incredible and the I wish I had all the time in the world to read all the papers to come out every day nowadays like it used to be once in a while you get a really good paper and like there'd be like a three-month wait and now the gut stuff it's like every day and like a mind-blowing paper I get to read the abstract and that's it but yes it's really cool stuff and digestion is a thing with people don't even know do they have poor digestion a lot of time until they correct it so now it's it's a it is very trending right now and in fact we we've started to infuse like probiotics into our protein powders like our protein bars have prebiotic fiber so always to keep your stomach really healthy because i think it is truly the key to optimal health so it's very interesting so I want to encourage everybody to go to your site eat clean train cleaned calm and you have a great just all sorts of different articles on all sorts of different topics very cool site very when are you books come out uh well I just got the covers back from the designer in San Francisco for one of them I'm in washington DC right now that's we're still going back and forth in the title but it could be called the complete bone broth cookbook there's ten chapters of all the science for bone broth and then 50 amazing recipes for that one so that's going to be like in two or three weeks sigh amazon barnes & noble etc and then paleo packs actually commissioned me to write two different books that have been done for a while now but all the editors have to go in designers all that fun stuff so it's going to be one of them is actually 30 day fat loss program which everybody listen to this would probably be interested in and the other ones Bailey occurs so it's like a chapter on a condition how to fix it like if you have thyroid problems as a whole chapter and how to fix that if you have blood sugar issues there's a whole chapter on that and then the fourth one is what I've had done for a year but it's at rodale publishing right now they're seeing if they want to buy it they do men's health women's health all that stuff and it's on why we're fat so it's like 10 chapters of how what we just talked about in great scientific like 500 scientific references and all that stuff so very soon is the answer to your question hopefully within like a month or two for most of them so yeah that's one thing I like about your articles is that you always use great graphics you know and you make things very easy and simple for people to follow so you're not really you know going too far off but you're backing it by actual evidence and and that way people get really good results so yeah kind of look at it like I'm a bridge right so like the science people are here and they can't talk to the public and public doesn't understand science so I'm like the middle ground so let's get the flagons to the people and like you said like everybody loves graphics and like if people want more information they can always go look up the references so but that's that's really nice to hear that thank you for that compliment no problem well I just want to thank you so much for coming on for all of our followers and new followers make sure you hit the subscribe button keep up to date on all of our upcoming videos we're going to be launching our first ad in paleo magazine I think in a couple months for the show very excited so very cool thank you so much for coming on today sure no problem .
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#49 Contributor to Paleo Hacks, The Paleo Diet, Paleo Magazine and owner of Eat Clean Train Clean Casey Thaler (B.A., NASM-CPT, FNS). This is an awesome 45 min interview by show host Heath Squier CEO of Julian Bakery. Casey Thaler is an up an coming author and has contributed to many of the top sites discussing how to achieve optimal health by offer detailed nutritional info to his followers. We discuss, weight loss with Paleo, Ketogenic Diets, Gut MicroBiome Health, Digestion, and achieving that six pack you have always wanted. Caey Thaler background is ideal as he literally practices what he preaches by implementing his knowledge first hand with his clients. Check out Casey Thaler site at: http://www.eatcleantrainclean.com/ Show Sponsor: Paleo Protein Bar® http://www.PaleoBar.com "The Primal Show CEO Of Julian Bakery, Inc. Heath Squier” Heath Squier's Exercise & Diet Plan: http://www.PaleoInc.com/Diet Heath Squier / Julian Bakery : Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/julianbakery Heath Squier’s Links: Online "Real Paleo Food Store" http://www.JulianBakery.com/Paleo Check out Heath Squier's complete diet here: http://www.PaleoInc.com/Diet Heath Squier: heath@theprimalshow.com http://www.twitter.com/heathsquier http://www.twitter.com/julianbakery (Paleo Diet Recipes Tweeted Daily) Visit our sites: http://www.julianbakery.com http://www.twitter.com/theprimalshow The Primal Show Site: http://www.ThePrimalShow.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/theprimalshow Google+ https://plus.google.com/+theprimalshow
