Paleo vs Keto Diets: What’s the difference?

so hubs howdy wife we've been getting a lot of questions about the difference between a Paleo diet and the keto diet clearly keto is very popular people are seeing it everywhere so let's tackle that today yeah it's it's a should theoretically be easy to unpack that there are a lot of nuances and so maybe let's look at what a paleo diet is first and you can tackle that by inclusion or exclusion so the exclusion is a paleo diet is usually free of grains legumes and dairy and the theory behind this is that if we look at what generally was available to hunter-gatherers and there were some pretty good information around that people will kind of get freaked out about you know the the veracity or the depth of that knowledge but in general we didn't have lots of grains legumes and dairy available until the advent of Agriculture so by inclusion of Paleo diet is usually built around lean protein seasonal fruits and vegetables roots and tubers that's that's kind of story now one of the big challenges with the Paleo diet is it's become almost this like religious process and people end up asking is it paleo instead of just asking is this a good option for me and when we talk about good options typically what we're talking about is nutrient density immunogenicity of the food like does it cause an immune response a lot of common allergens we saw way corn you know these things are really common so not everybody has problems with them but a lot of people do so on the ketogenic diet side it really is quite a bit easier although dr. Ted Nieman has a really interesting infographic that kind of breaks down the different ways to get into a ketogenic state but in general what we're talking about is a carbohydrate restrictive diet and we have adequate protein and then fat to a degree that kind of flips the lever of if we are a performance-oriented athlete we probably eat a lot of fat to make up the calories that we need if we are looking to lose body fat that we need a caloric deficit and so we're going to set our fat levels somewhat lower so on the Paleo diet side we also have the additional caveat what I would call the Paleo template which is looking at sleep and circadian rhythm we're thinking about community we're thinking about the gut microbiome and so it's really what we would call in broader terms an ancestral health or evolutionary medicine template the ketogenic diet fits within that story perfectly and really I've made the point that the the Paleo diet should be approached in what I call a macro macronutrient agnostic fashion and what that means is we're focusing on food quality first and then you figure out what the the relative ratios of protein carbs fat are that you need to work optimally I'll use myself as an example just just briefly I despite being much healthier than what I was in my 20s and 30s I'm still not super duper carb tolerant I'm better than what I was in the past but a really large bowl of rice or something like that it's going to give me sky high blood sugar levels we've done some self experimentation where you ate the the right side eat the rice we checked blood sugar at two hours and you kicked my ass on it like your blood sugar barely got above like 110 or something mine was nearly 190 which is near diabetic levels so that is a piece of this story I to be healthy need to eat a lower carb intake I'm also quite guman intolerant if you eat a piece of French bread you'll get a little bit of kind of belly swell but it's not that big of a deal like two hours later you're fine so these are kind of the the personalized nutrition elements that we end up augering down and getting more granular for each of us and this is what we're recommending to other folks is you know look at this big picture of what goes into a paleo diet which is typically whole unprocessed foods nutrient density is kind of a primary concern but that all applies to a ketogenic diet as well and there are a lot of people for whom a ketogenic diet is really the the best tool in the tool shed there are some people for whom a ketogenic diet may not be the appropriate tool at all and in it too I do recognize that we don't need a one-size-fits-all world even though lots of people try to make it that way if all that we had were hammer nails are houses wouldn't stick together all that well um I would make the point that in many ways approaching the world from this ketogenic diet perspective could simplify this whole story or just low carbon here's kind of my thought we look at what your carb tolerance is and this will be determined by genetics by epigenetics including your sleep in kind of circadian though we know from the work that we've done with the Reno police and fire projects that people who are in circadian rhythm disrupted environments basically shift work their insulin resistant and the only lever we have to flip from there is their nutrition and typically we recommend a low carb diet so we find the carb level that works well for folks and then we just look at this range of what I would call immuno genic foods which is typically grains legumes and dairy and we just ask a question do I do well with those foods in the way that we determine that isn't an elimination diet we remove these foods from the program for 30 days reintroduce and see how you do and so in that regard if we I would almost argue that a simpler approach is using low carb or keto as a baseline add in these other elements of the evolutionary medicine story sleep and circadian rhythm gut health and whatnot and it really simplifies the process instead of asking a million questions is this paleo instead we have a really stepwise process where we start with appropriate glycemic load then we find out if we have immuno genic problems with foods basically in tolerances and we set amounts and ratios appropriate for what our goals are and then also flesh out the rest of our lifestyle with an eye towards sleep and gut health now it's it's interesting because clearly a ton of people have lost a lot of weight on a paleo diet and a lot of people are losing a tremendous amount of weight on keto and I think the easier bit with keto know how do you expand on this a bit is that like with paleo people you know like you mentioned there's certain foods that you don't eat but there's no real limit on calories like you're not looking you're not specifically it's limiting your caloric intake whereas on Akita diet keto diet especially if you are someone who has a significant amount of weight to lose it can really help simplify things because you you are eating at that caloric deficit yeah you know like some folks like the keto games folks and whatnot they have done a great job of helping people to determine an appropriate macronutrient ratio adequate protein carbs fat so that they're in that ketogenic state but more importantly they're in a mild caloric deficit and the results that they're getting are absolutely remarkable anything else do you think people should know I know there's another question that came up also how is keto different from Atkins yeah in you that's a great question and really they're kind of kissing cousins and the distinctions become really although whole religions have been founded on on minor distinctions and philosophy but the Atkins historically has been a ketogenic diet for about a two to four week period an induction phase tends to reverse insulin resistance tends to help people become what we would call fat burners and then from there Atkins historically recommended that you titrate carbohydrates up to a point in which you don't see problems and so they end up being very very similar there's also a thing called a modified Atkins which is a higher protein intake than what we would typically see with in standard ketogenic diet circles and then finally if we really dig in the history of the ketogenic diet the classic nutritional ketogenic diet that is used for epilepsy was a very high fat very low protein low carbohydrate diet that's not necessarily what we and most people in this kind of performance and esthetics world are recommending for the vast majority of people who just want to look feel and perform better but there is definitely a place for that that you know well-formulated nutritional ketogenic diet for things like epilepsy and other neurodegenerative conditions so babe given the you've helped so many people lose weight transform their health with paleo and like we've like we've mentioned quito is is very popular right now and we're seeing lots of people especially people who've just struggled to drop you know maybe their 300 pounds 400 pounds and they they've just struggled to find about something that would work for them and we're finding tremendous success with the Quito so to that end you've been working we've been working on a big project you want to tell folks a little bit about that yeah and before I mentioned the project I will mention what some people it appears if they have been significantly overweight for long periods of time they may actually have some alterations and their hypothalamus the energy regulating center of the brain and up until this point every approach that these folks have tried has typically failed they're always hungry they're debilitated by by a hunger and a desire to effectively overeat and the ketogenic diet is interesting in that it appears to reset that hypothalamic dysregulation and particularly over the course of time we've seen a lot of reports of folks like you you mentioned 300 400 pounds in body weight significantly overweight and for the first time in their lives or at least for the first time in in you know immediate memory these folks are not chronically hungry and so there's something about that ketogenic state that allows people to regulate their hunger and to eat appropriate amounts of food and they subsequently have some great success and that success is the reason why we put together this program which is called the keto masterclass keto masterclass is a 13 module course which includes a 13 video module course it includes a comprehensive workbook it has some really cool bonus features like a 45 day program so it guides you through 45 days of your eating you're tracking your sleep and paying attention to a lot of these different levers that factor into weight loss and then also exercise right right yeah yeah and even though it's comprehensive it's simple it is a simple program you don't need a PhD in biochemistry to be able to navigate this this program great and if folks want to check out the keto masterclass you can click the link that's in and we're gonna ask some questions because a lot of people who gets started on it on a new way of eating typically run aground in a couple of areas either social situations co-workers family members they kind of derail what the person is up to kind a little bit of sabotage going on oftentimes folks can get started in there on a great path but then life gets in the way and they get really busy and time crunched or folks are doing great but then they hit what you call the dreaded but the perceived plateau so don't have some some strategies for that and then also just figuring out how to do it right so how much do protein carbs in fact do I eat what do you know how do I go about this new way of eating and so we'll ask some questions to kind of figure out what your challenge is and we'll be providing some some tips to address those challenges as well and then from there if you're interested in signing up for the keto masterclass they'll be information for you to do so as well .

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Paleo and keto…two popular ways of eating that have changed a lot of people’s lives.

So, what’s the difference between the paleo diet and the keto diet? How are they similar? Which one is better?

Listen as we answer these questions and more.

Want to read more? I broke it down here too:

Why Do Keto Paleo Instead of Keto

hello everybody this is vivica from the nourish caveman and the healing foods method I am coming to you today on this holiday from Mexico where I've been for the last week came here for a little bit of vacation and to do some work as well today I would like to talk to you about and the subject is very important to me and that's key to paleo and why I do ketta paleo instead of just regular keto and also for some of you hello Margaret how you doing why I do key to failure instead of keto and what does it mean keto paleo some of you who are new to keto or just started looking around about this ketogenic diet and by the way as you might have noticed there is a lot of buzz about keto right now and everybody is talking about the ketogenic diet so I've been doing ketogenic diet for about five years and I come from a paleo background I used to be a painter blogger and I'm a nutritionist and I use paleo is the main staple of the diet for my clients and then I transition to Tito Palio's so if you wonder why and what does it mean let's get into this and it will give you some really good reasons and what does it mean and why we're doing it so first of all what does what is keto paleo you would think the first thing is like a keto without dairy yes it's that but there is a lot more to it there is I recently saw a page on Facebook it's dairy free keto keto without dairy still does not mean keto paleo so for me personally as Vivica as a nutritionist keto pineal means first of all a therapeutic ketogenic diet means a diet is designed for your body to heal so what is this diet that I do which comes first of all from a background of dr. Weston price with nutritional dense foods as this is another kind of diet that was trained into as a study nutrition and we're looking in a minute we're going to look at why it's so important to have nutrient-dense foods so not just any foods but nutrient-dense foods traditional foods that have been proven by hundreds and thousands of years to make humans healthy and you know were used by many populations around the world like the foods with the best possible nutrition nutrient content the other part is the paleo part so what does it mean that is a paleo diet is is let's be realistic its 2017 we are not going to be able to eat like our Paleolithic ancestors it's just an how going to happen most of our food has been processed in some way even the foods that are just straight from the farmer have been genetically selected selected it can speak English too much Spanish here they've been selected genetically to make bigger fruit or bigger better crops more productive so as you know generation after generation of farming foods have evolved and they're not what they used to be but what it means by eating a paleo in my opinion is to try to eat as many unprocessed food or least amount of processed food as possible more close to nature and also avoiding dairy and avoiding grains and legumes so it's kind of in a way like you know a bit romanticized but we want to try to eat the way that hundreds of thousands of year of God hunter-gatherers ate before Agriculture's so in a nutshell this is it for me it really means eating clean and processed foods eliminating dairy eliminating grains eliminating legumes more than anything else and then of course we have the keto the keto part and the keto part is mostly the macronutrients those famous macros that I always talk about and you guys you know that reach out to me are so worried about and we're doing the right macros if I can only do the right macros I will you know do keto right yes keto is based on the right macros that means restricting carbohydrates and eating enough such low level of carbohydrates to get us into ketosis I'm not going to go into the whole ketosis process in this video but I want to talk to you about why are we gonna eat this way and what a cocky to pay low so what is your main concern like I know some of you are viewing right now I would love to hear from you I know what I can see from my patients from my readers from my readers on the blog from my readers here on Facebook so you people that are watching if you want to share with me in the comments we can address that too briefly but I think that the main concern of most people they try a ketogenic diet is to lose weight and it is one of the main concerns in the United States right now I would say for anybody that approaches a different way of eating or a diet is the desire to lose weight by the way I just got this new fancy microphone right here and I'm wondering if you can hear me okay if anybody who's watching live right now could you please maybe either give a thumb up or comment in the comments if you can hear me fine or if there are any problems because this is the first time I'm using the new microphone and hopefully we get good a good reception and I think there might be a little delay yes see atoms Thank You Margaret and Maria comments I have not been able to lose so yes exactly that you have not been able thank you and thank you for confirming that you can hear me otherwise I'd be like not a bad line nobody hears anything pretty embarrassing so I haven't been able to lose weight and I think Margaret that was the case for you as well Margaret is one of my patients that had tried pretty much every diet out there and she had a really big problem with her weight was not able to lose weight didn't know what to do anymore and then she came to me and you know tried did my program and tried to eat keto paleo and was very successful with it and was able to lose a good amount of weight yes Donna thank you for your comment absolutely and I that's one of the things Don is asking would it be good for someone with ash emoto's I want to get right into that in a second so go back to the way so main reason most people are doing ketogenic diet not you to pay low just ketogenic is because they want in this way but let's look at this a little bit better what is lurking under this excess weight that you're carrying around a lot of you just think if I can lose weight everything else will be better it will fix itself it's actually something I always tell my patients or my prospects they come and talk to me and ask for my health it's actually the other way around the way is just a centum it's not that if I lose weight and I force my body I just make my body lose weight everything else will get better well guess what if that was the truth then first of all all the diseases would kind of disappear once you lose weight no matter how you lose it so even people that do you know surgery bloodbath or people that take yes pharmaceutical and fat amines in order to lose weight I think my tripod is sliding oh here we go I also got a fancy new tripod I'm trying to improve the quality of these videos you guys that we are a little more professional here but the fancy new tripod is sliding away um so if the you know the idea was through that losing weight will fix the underlying issues then people who lost weight in not such healthy ways as lap band or drugs yes pharmaceutical drugs for weight loss like you know basically and fat amines remember the old Fanfan that was taken off the market well that's what people love that and they lost weight but there was dire consequences and the reason why I got taken off the market is because it basically slowly killed you and you know I understand some people don't care we all die at some point and they say I can just look good today and I'll die of a horrible disease tomorrow because they took this terrible drug but I don't care because I look good today well that is not my philosophy and I still like to look good today and I think that 449 I am in pretty good shape but that is done in a healthy way and that's my mission thank you it's my mission to share it with you because I really hate to see people who feel sick and don't look their best and you can see the fatigue and you know then healthiness on their bodies on their faces and they're desperate to be better and to look better and to feel better inside their skin and I want to help for you to achieve those goals so what is lurking under this weight loss that dooms us or that plagues us and you know we are constantly looking in the mirror the weight loss is the first thing we see we don't see and balance for months we see is sick thyroid we see the weight we see also the hair falling out and other things but the weight is the main thing so what lurks underneath there are a number of things not that many actually the root causes are not that many so we'll look at them now like one of the main ones is toxicity so a toxic body and it can be toxic mold or it can be heavy metals or it can be pesticides there is something in your body that is stuck in there and it's toxic and your body is protecting you from these toxins with weight gain also it's impairing your ability to lose weight another thing that lurks under your weight loss you're impossible weight loss is chronic viral infections this is recently there has been in the nutrition world a lot of talk about viruses and viruses especially the viruses of the herpes family like the EBV the famous abstain verb are infamous famous infamously famous there is a lot of talk about that recently and good products are being developed like horrible products in order to address these issues but keto paleo as well let's see I am moles and toxins and viruses and also bacterial infections sometimes we have chronic bacterial infections that are present in the body and these are all things that congeal together and they are connected to each other they're all working together everything in the body is connected so the best way for us to start approaching this weight loss problem is to get your body healthy and then the weight loss will happen pretty much by itself but also you know autoimmune conditions those are like the same like I'm a little bit all over the place too much vacation I guess it's not good for the brain that's what I made myself a little roadmap so I don't forget half of the things that I want to share with you today so there are connected and now let's look at specifically how key to paleo addresses those things more specifically so first of all key to pelo the paleo part eating clean foods and processed foods that means removing toxic load from the food we take in from ideally from everything you know from an environment from our household but especially from the things we put directly into our body which is food and on our skin so that is the paleo part so paleo help us lighten the toxic load that makes us sick and unable to lose weight then there is the ketogenic part and the ketogenic Park with the famous macros that helps us reduce things like insulin resistance it helps us rebalance the hormones starting with insulin and cortisol it houses reduce inflammation and those are really important parts of healthy weight loss then it comes the third part which is the nutrient-dense part like dr. Weston Price nutrient-dense foods you know eating real food full of nutrition so we don't have to supplement so much that is important because you want to give the body the energy to heal and until the body is not healing itself again we can't lose weight so I made it a little convoluted but really it's a few basic elements and these are it's all in order to lead to the famous why I can't lose weight now I want to talk about Hashimoto's specifically and on immune diseases on immune diseases are not a hopeless cause like doctors might want you to think that they can be helped they can be healed even if I'm not legally allowed I'm a nutritionist so you know I can't really be sued or we can't take my license away I'm not allowed to say cure but yes autoimmune diseases can be reversed doing the right thing doing making the right steps one of the things is very important again detoxification and gut healing it's basic for healing in on immunity and I think I will do a video on our immune diseases soon to go more specifically we did a video on hormones I think it was two weeks ago just to explain the connections between macros and you know why did on help when the hormones are imbalanced also I would like to do I'm going to do a video so to talk about our immune and how that you know with the proper diet we can really help these conditions and reset our body like reverse reset clean up make progress and lose weight which is kind of the cherry on the cake and what we all want but it's also about not just a weight that's about the vibrancy of your life your energy how you feel every morning when you get up and how you feel when you look in the mirror and you know you can tell that you're feeling good you're energized you're happy you feel good inside your skin so I hope that that you know not quite so coincides video helps you understand why we are doing Peter paleo and what does it mean now if you have any questions about it any other questions this would be a good time to post them for me so we have a couple of minutes for this video I would love to answer anything pertinent into keto Paleo and why we're doing it and otherwise you can always post them in the comments I will post this video again on the Facebook page and then it will eventually be on my blog so that you can all find it it will also be posted on my yuge YouTube channel and for those of you who want to hear more and want to know more on how to heal with keto paleo you're welcome to follow me here on Facebook on my blog the nourish caveman I'm also an Instagram and by the way Instagram is the place where I usually put not so much my recipes but the foods I actually eat me vivica doing keto paleo traveling like here in Mexico it's been kind of challenging so I've been you know putting some pictures of the food that I managed to find there are more compliance with my way of eating trying to dodge the beans in the tortillas you're very welcome I'm glad thank you for watching I'm glad this info was helpful for you thank you so much again for being a follower and watching and I will keep bringing you good information to help you succeed in your journey to help .

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Paleo Roasted Carrot Soup

1 pound carrots, peeled and sliced thin
5 fresh sage leaves 2 tablespoons grass-fed butter or ghee
1.5 cups chicken bone broth 1/2 cup full-fat canned coconut milk (BPA-free),
plus extra as needed 1 tablespoon Brain Octane Oil
Sea salt to taste Crushed nuts for garnishing, such as raw pecans
Instructions: Melt butter or ghee in a medium sized saucepan
over medium low heat. Once bubbling, add carrots and sage. Sauté for 5 minutes, or until the carrots
begin to slightly soften. Add bone broth and coconut milk. Turn the heat up to medium high heat until
it comes to a boil.

Immediately lower heat to a gentle simmer
and cover with a lid. Simmer for 10-15 minutes, or until the carrots
are mushy. Add mixture to a blender and blend, using
extra chicken stock a tablespoon at a time to thin the soup if it’s too thick. Once the mixture is just thin enough to vortex
in the blender, drizzle in Brain Octane Oil to emulsify. Blend until completely smooth.

Season to taste with salt. Serve with crushed nuts and fresh parsley
leaves on top .

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Ingredients:
1 pound carrots, peeled and sliced thin
5 fresh sage leaves
2 tablespoons grass-fed butter or ghee
1.5 cups chicken bone broth
1/2 cup full-fat canned coconut milk (BPA-free), plus extra as needed
1 tablespoon Brain Octane Oil
Sea salt to taste
Crushed nuts for garnishing, such as raw pecans
Instructions:
Melt butter or ghee in a medium sized saucepan over medium low heat. Once bubbling, add carrots and sage. Sauté for 5 minutes, or until the carrots begin to slightly soften.
Add bone broth and coconut milk. Turn the heat up to medium high heat until it comes to a boil. Immediately lower heat to a gentle simmer and cover with a lid.
Simmer for 10-15 minutes, or until the carrots are mushy.
Add mixture to a blender and blend, using extra chicken stock a tablespoon at a time to thin the soup if it’s too thick. Once the mixture is just thin enough to vortex in the blender, drizzle in Brain Octane Oil to emulsify. Blend until completely smooth.
Season to taste with salt.
Serve with crushed nuts and fresh parsley leaves on top.

Serve this carrot soup with Thai skirt steak or cauliflower fritters for a paleo and Whole30-approved meal.

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Evan Brand- The Fitness Podcast #1-Paleo Diet

I hey everyone welcome to the fitness podcast where I talk health fitness and exercise with the experts go to the fitness burn calm for notes and resources from Today Show podcast page and be sure to check out the fitness essentials page will list my favorite products please follow me on twitter at night Elmore one and the fitness podcast page on Facebook the show is sponsored by listeners like you support the podcast by using our affiliate banners to shop on amazon audible on it and ultimate sandbag training calm there's no extra charge and it helps me keep this up and running today's episode is brought to you by audible get any audiobook and your first month free when you go to audibletrial.com/preneurcast alada bowl trial calm / the fit pod so today on the fitness podcast we're joined by evan brand who is a former researcher for on it a company that I'm a huge fan of and who is now a full-time podcaster and nutritional therapist you can find them online at not just paleo calm also follow him on twitter at not just paleo paleo spelled p aleo and you say it paleo not pelayo kevin thanks for coming on the show yeah absolutely Nathaniel thanks for having me man so I've given our listeners just a little overview about you so could you take a minute and give us an introduction on yourself who you are what you do and why you do it sure so as you mentioned I was a former researcher at on it I was working over there for the CEO of the company basically helping to work on and improve the science and formulations behind different nutritional supplements things that will help your immune system things that will help your mind your body things like that but I'm no longer doing that and i have now embarked on a journey to basically take my business full time which is to do one-on-one health consults for people so i always try to get people in the door and offer my help by doing 15-minute consults for people because you'd be surprised how many people have questions about health that their doctor is just not going to be able to answer their fitness trainer is not going to be able to answer and their friend their parents i mean there's just it's it's hard to find good answers for how to take your health in the right direction so I'm basically just trying to provide some clarity in a sea of missing for in a sea of misinformation and fad diets and things like that so I'm currently in school to become a nutritional therapy practitioner and that way I can have some credentials to back up the skills that I've gained over the past five years of struggling with my own health and I'm also a currently a certified fitness trainer through on it so i can teach people you know over the phone or skype or in person it's obviously most beneficial in person how to apply unconventional training techniques by using things like maces which are essentially sledgehammers that you can smack against rubber tires and things like that so I try to basically just hone my skills to where I can create an optimal human and all different aspects of life well that's that's really awesome I didn't know that on it offered those sort of classes I'm actually doing kind of the same thing but I'm going through the american college of sports medicine but I mean if I'd known that on it offered certifications like that I definitely would've signed up for that and I think it's really cool how you've um you've decided to take it into your own hands to help people out with their nutrition because like I I know from experience that you can't go to your doctor and you can't rely on other people you know for for advice about your nutrition because sometimes they they just won't know like your doctor he's not really a nutritionist so he can't give you the best advice and and there is a lot of misinformation out there um you know that that doctors are well they're not intentionally spreading it but there's there have been recent advances that they're just not hip to or they're not comfortable presenting as fact am i right oh definitely yeah and you know science is so fast I just now like literally today I just released my new book my second book called stress solutions and i would say probably seventy to eighty percent of the studies that i published in the book that i used for reference were published between 2012 and 2014 and you talked about someone who which I have a lot of friends that are doctors but you know some of them have they've got their schooling done in the late 70s or the 1980s you know so they're still stuck back then and they really just haven't been up on the research and doctors definitely have a role and emergency care in my opinion as far as if you break a leg or something's really wrong with you but that kind of preventative long-term maintenance that I think you and your listeners are trying to achieve that's sort of daily maintenance on your your vehicle that is your body in your mind that stuff takes it takes updated science and that's kind of what I'm here to provide yeah an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and that's really that's really true yeah I didn't realize that actually until my hell sort of collapsed on itself and then now I'm sort of doing all these preventative measures like taking different herbs and supplements and vitamins and learning to meditate and spending time out in nature all these other preventive measures now that I should have been doing in the first place but you know people like myself we wait until we've already burnt out and then we decide that it's time to make a shift in the right direction yeah and I definitely wanted to get into more of this but first let's let's talk about the motivational quote do you have a motivational quote for our listeners something that inspires you something that you've taken meaning from yeah so you were talking to me just a couple minutes ago about this off air and one of my favorite people is Thomas Jefferson one of our founding fathers and I'm going to read this quote a couple times just to make sure it sticks so it's nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude someone say that one more time nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude and for me that's really profound because oftentimes people are afraid of success now whether that's starting a podcast or starting a new business or getting into a new dietary regimen or a new fitness plan we're so fearful of success because we're so comfortable with our routines and the attitude that we put towards all these different things is usually what sets us back there's usually not many roadblocks in our way it's just our mind and once you can get past that in my own experience and my clients experience once we conquer the mind pretty much anything is possible at that point that is absolutely true like when you were saying that it I was thinking about and I realized yes absolutely because this whole podcasting thing is pretty new to me today's our first episode congratulations by the way thank you for being in my first episode and just the whole process of getting this thing started it's it's a kind of scary and it you realize how easy it would be to just not do it and not go through all the steps that you would need to start a podcast in it yeah I really see what you're saying on that definitely yeah and you know once you break the barrier and everything so in my experience success is sort of like a snowball and this is with fitness especially because once you're out of the gym for a while your snowball essentially melts and you're starting back from Ground Zero but once you get your snowball rolling well does use fitness as an example for now and you start increasing your way you're increasing your strength or so you're starting to see some results that ball is already rolling if you skip the gym you're going to feel pretty crappy most the time if you're in a routine and it's going to continue to make you want to go back eventually you start getting some real propulsion under you and it's so easy that you just slide into the gym you're in the middle of another workout and six months ago you you may have been like you would have been blown away at where you are now but now here you are in the middle of a workout six weeks into a new fitness plan and now you're getting results you're strong you're feeling happy you're feeling confident so really just that mental barrier once you get past that I'm serious that's when the limitless potential really comes out that's absolutely true because the times in my life when I've kind of slacked off the gym you you lose momentum is what really is i've struggled to define it but hearing what you just said i think it really is like a snowball you get momentum and once the momentum builds it's easier to keep going but if you lose it it's just the hardest thing ever to get started again you know a snowball can't roll itself you have to you have to be pushed and that push comes from your own motivation and I have a quote actually and it is that inspiration is like showering you should repeat it daily because if you don't you'll become uninspired you'll become demotivated and you'll just be back where you started but if you repeat daily motivating and inspiring yourself it'll be a lot easier to to get where you want to go definitely and it takes time it takes time to do that and to feel that but once you really feel that in your heart and people realize that that's not just a quote that that's profound wisdom you can get some real action I mean for me with my sort of health journey I mean I started out just as a depressed and pretty pretty overall just kind of mopey guy in college I was feeling good at first and then eventually I just slowly slid into depression and I was broke out in acne I have some pictures where I was ripped I had a six-pack I was super strong my shoulders were popping out but I had acne and I was depressed I could barely get out of bed the mornings and so it was a real disconnect between how I looked and how I felt and eventually I discovered that I was getting in my own way I was kind of beating myself up a lot and just never feeling like I was good enough and always putting my happiness one step away well I'm 160 pounds now I'll be happy when I'm 165 this sort of weird goal that didn't really meet anything I'll be happy when I can bench 225 or I'll be happy when I can dead lift their leg press 400 pounds you know so I just always put the carrot in front of my own face and I think up to a certain extent that's good to motivate people to achieve their goals but at a certain point you just have to realize that you have to be content and acknowledge where you've come from you have to celebrate the small wins because if you started out at one hundred and 20 pounds like I did going from 120 to 160 s pretty incredible but I never celebrated that I just continued to push up up up and up and who knows if I ever would have found a stopping point eventually my health sort of derailed and I didn't get up to the 175 180 that I wanted to be but you know it's all a work in progress yeah definitely it sounds to me like you kind of almost had a look it's familiar to me in a way because it reminds me of the sort of like military mindset that we kind of get indoctrinated into when we're when we're in training like you push until you achieve your goal but you there's no really like celebration of the success you've achieved and that's because of you know the mission and there's no time for that but in a personal setting you I think you have to congratulate yourself and let yourself know that what what i'm doing here is working and I should take take some satisfaction because I've succeeded a little bit and you just can't be too hard on yourself mentally I think is the key point here mm-hmm so Evan um there must have been some low point in your life that sort of made you step back and see things differently and ultimately led you down the path that you're on now could you take us through that moment what was going on during that time sure well the clarity doesn't really come at the low moment is what I've discovered a lot of people don't realize that they're in a low moment until they start coming back out of it and once you're in the trenches you feel it but you don't know how low you are until you start really achieving something out of it and so for me just working a third shift job at UPS to pay for college was sort of the the route that led me to destroy my health and people don't realize that your hormones that create what you are as a person they create your moods they create and help build muscle tissue I mean all these different functions of hormones they regulate everything and when you're working a third shift job or you're up many hours and when I say many I mean about anything past about three to four hours after sunset so if you're if the sun's going down at say eight or nine and you're staying up till midnight you're going to be basically throwing off the cycle of these hormones and that's exactly what I was doing and so the acne began to get worse I was not able to gain any more muscle I hit a continual plateau regardless of what I changed up and then eventually my energy level was just started to plummet and obviously no one's designed humans are not designed to work third shift in the middle of the night my shift was about midnight to 5am and I would try to go to bed with the sunrise usually and it's pretty miserable experience and it's actually a carcinogen for anybody that does work third shift type encourage them to get a different job and it's it's not worth it's not worth your time or your money there's no amount of money that could they could make up for something like cancer I mean when you destroy your melatonin production like i did with artificial light you really increase your risk for cancer so i started to research and find out some of this knowledge and it really started to scare me so i quit my job and started to find a new one and i found a day job at the time and i ended up working out in a park working out in nature and spending a lot of time out with the birds and the trees and just basically connecting back to the earth I was so disconnected for so long in a big warehouse and artificial lighting and I really started to feel like a happier person it was strange I was almost like man this is not even me I'm happy now what this is this is crazy and it just sort of continued to blossom that way I found a great girl who is now my wife and the relationship blossom with my job and everything just sort of turned around and it sounds easy and quick now but I mean this is a journey over five years that it took to get to where I am today so it's uh it's not something that happens overnight where anyone listening is I'm not saying I can help you overnight become a brand new person but you know we can certainly try and some people are more motivated than others to change that is pretty terrifying about the artificial light and it messing with your melatonin production and also I totally didn't know about um that thing you said when you say it past three or four hours after the Sun Goes Down I did not know that that messes with your hormones that's that's crazy yeah i mean we're design everything pretty much operates not everything but a lot of hormones operate on sort of a 24 hour cycle obviously if you live in alaska or somewhere very far north or south latitude you're going to have months of pure darkness and so for that i mean it's it's going to be really hard for you to live by that motto but essentially before the advent of electricity which is just a mere blip in time compared to the relative existence of humankind we're not programmed for that we haven't had a time to catch up and get adjusted to electricity we love it as soon as the soon as the Sun Goes Down what do we do we turn our lights on so we have we avoid nighttime and we avoid it like the plague and it's really starting to show its effects and that's kind of why I created my first book that was called grim rehab all about sleep because my sleep was destroyed and you often find the best teachers are the ones that struggled themselves yeah that's that's very important information people definitely don't realize because it's just so normal to us we yeah we have lights everywhere mm-hmm they're just so there's all around us so um what was the kind of the breakthrough a moment that you had that kind of put you on the right track set you on the path you're on today and just just take us through that moment yeah i'm not sure if it was a single moment but rather a combination of moments but i guess one in particular that was pretty fun for me he was a night at UPS that i remember i was just completely fed up and I wasn't taking it anymore the managers they I was sort of very it was very militaristic in the role and it was very careless about human health it was all about getting those boxes out in time and so the managers who had sort of bark orders to get the job done not that people were lazy but they just wanted to just crank crank crank the productivity up and I just got fed up and I'm just say you know what this is a hundred pound box i was on the earache team they call it the irregular packages of the really heavy stuff and I just hit a point where it's like you know what man this isn't worth it I feel like a dog and I'm not going to take any more so I took it up with the manager and we sort of had this pretty long conversation that ended up I guess you would call it an argument to some and most people are so complacent and so docile that no one really speaks up everyone just kind of keeps their head down gets in and gets out because they love that they get free college and that wasn't enough for me to just continue to take that abuse and so eventually by the end of this 30-45 minute conversation with this manager I had all the other team leaders and tons of staff like circled around and it was they were just kind of watching us talk it out like it was some Dateline TV show or something that was kind of funny but but but I've got so many Pat's on the back for weeks after that because there's so much frustration that was never it was never acknowledged and no one ever had any sort of release from all this frustration and I was sort of a I guess a light a light at the end of the tunnel for people and I think that's kind of you were though yeah they didn't have yeah so I think that's kind of like I think that's a pretty a pretty good turning point and that's kind of as my started that's kind of as I started to work my way out of the company did you ever have a I made it moment and by that I mean like a moment where you realize yeah I'm on the right track i'm doing what i want to do this this is it i need to keep doing this you ever do you have a moment like that oh yeah i have moments like that probably every week yeah definitely it's you just have to know when to identify those little moments you know because even just waking up and having blue sky as opposed to a cloudy day you know that could be a winning moment that I would celebrate and that's sort of the little things that kind of keep me going so you have to celebrate and appreciate the little things like you're talking about earlier with your small goals reward yourself be thankful just appreciate the little things right yeah it's hard to do but with practice you'll get better yeah okay so for people who don't really know what the Paleo diet is and what makes it beneficial for four people um just explain what it is and why would help everyone because everybody could benefit from the Paleo diet I firmly believe that yeah so essentially this diets had a lot of weird a lot of weird connotations and a lot of weird stereotypes added to it but essentially the idea is that you're just going to be eating real foods as close to nature as possible so you're actually eating animals that were allowed to roam out in the pasture on open grass and were able to be happy and be in their natural environment as opposed to the 99 other percent of animals in the United States that are confined to warehouses that are miserable i'm sure people have seen the food documentaries it's disgusting you know yeah yeah our food production industries is horrible but luckily there's a lot of farmers and really good people out there they're starting to provide high-quality food so by eating these foods you're providing all the raw materials that are necessary to a make your hormones be make your neurotransmitters the brain chemicals that allow you to feel good emotions depression is not a coincidence in our society either Center for Disease Control says by the year twenty twenty depression will be the number one leading cause of disability and that's not a coincidence obviously there's multiple factors at play but if your diet is lacking the raw materials needed to produce your brain chemicals you're not going to be happy so that's sort of the idea behind the Paleo diet in you're basically trying to eat as much organic food as possible staying away from chemicals and pesticides and not only poison our water and our air but they're poison your body and over time all of these add up to cause cancer all sorts of other diseases and I think people are starting to become more aware but we really really have to speed it up yeah absolutely agree and just to give people some sort of example what would what would be some foods that are not okay to eat when you're on the Paleo diet essentially anything that's been created in the last hundred years so obviously we can argue that foods like bread have been around for thousands of years and they were in the Bible and all of that but the modern breads and pastas and things like that are generally made with genetically modified and hybridized wheat and so what that means is the amount of gluten which is a wheat protein that causes inflammatory responses in the body the levels of gluten are much higher in these foods then they were just a hundred years ago just because of the way we breed them so gluten is sort of what makes breads really fluffy so some of the ancient breads they would have been almost like wafers or like a dense like sort of a dense food but now there is really fluffy and really airy and puffy and things like croissants we're addicted to that stuff and so that's a food that you definitely want to avoid it can cause a condition called leaky gut which is essentially where you have think of look if you look down at your hand and you have all your fingers together there's not much that's going to get through your fingers but if you just sort of give a tiny little gap in your fingers now there's an opening for toxins to pass through and that's what happens to your gut when you have inflammatory foods like sugar breads and pastas caffeine can have an influence and impact on the gut food toxins in general so anything that's a non-organic food some other things sometimes rice is an issue for people I personally organic white rice and don't have a problem with it there's some other categories of foods called nightshades things like peppers tomatoes potatoes those foods can all be irritating to the gut and once you start allowing these food toxins to go into the body you can have things like joint pain aching depression you can have irritable bowel syndrome which I've struggled with for a while you can have the bags under your eyes you could just be generally fatigued and low on energy so there's so many symptoms that people just sort of ignore or make credit to all I'm just tired or oh I'm just getting older and things like that but you really should feel full of energy and you should feel like tackling the day pretty much every day yeah and that kind of I was actually gonna ask you about gluten on the next question but we kind of got into it on this one so that's good and I I completely notice a difference ever since I cut out bread and all those other gluten containing products like I have so much more energy and the biggest thing would would be the acne for me obviously it just made it so bad and it was it was horrible but now that I'm i try to be gluten-free i have more energy my skin's clear and i feel better and yeah i think there's a lot of unfortunately like misinformation and stereotypes out there about gluten and it's kind of like a it's kind of a thing you make fun of it's been in my experience these days and it's kind of a kind of sad because people really do need to know about it yeah did you see the south park episode about Glen I was just gonna bring that up I'll I left but oh man that's a funny episode yeah for people that haven't seen it the rumor starts popping up about gluten in the and the and the rumor is that gluten makes your dick fly off hence and so there in this big school meeting and the head or someone from either Monsanto or the USDA I can't remember yeah so he's in there giving a you know he's sort of a scientific lecture giving a presentation on on gluten and he basically consonant he basically concentrates bread or something and ends up with a little scientific beaker with a drop of like pure gluten in it and he and and and the people were like well if it doesn't do anything then eat it whatever and so the guy puts the drop in his mouth and they're all kind of waiting and nothing happens and after about five seconds you see his pants start moving around and his dick flies off and everybody just starts running in the whole town just breaks out into chaos it's a hilarious episode even if someone's not a cartoon fan I mean just the the whole episode it's it's incredible political political episode yeah and even if you're not even if you don't really experience any negative effects from gluten or so you think you should try cutting it out and see how you feel yeah no one on this planet has a gluten deficiency and I have a friend named dr. Rodney Ford who's a gastroenterologist in New Zealand and he's written several books that he calls gluten zero because he thinks that gluten-free sounds sort of weird and it sounds very kind of childish and that gluten zero really puts across the message that should be that should be known is that there is no acceptable dose I mean even a small amount even a trace exposure and certain people can cause flare-ups even if you don't have something like celiac disease you can still have flare-ups and like you've mentioned even if you don't think you're affected you could try cutting it out and you're going to notice the benefit but yeah I mean it has no nutritional value for anyone we can put it that way yeah and when when you cut it out of your diet if you're a person who thinks oh it doesn't really affect me we'll try it and see how much better you feel because chances are you're probably used to feeling like crap yep it's probably just something you've gotten used to and you think it's normal now because you just don't you just don't know the upside definitely not eating gluten definitely so but yeah I mean just encouraging people to replace when you pull out these foods to replace it with I probably a pound of something green per day so whether it's organic broccoli you can buy that frozen it still retains a lot of nutrients make sure it's organic you can do organic peas there's all sorts of greens you can do leafy greens if you're into that thing you can basically take some some grass fed beef and you can put that on top of a big side of kale and spinach and dark leafy greens and you have a great meal and you'll really feel good after that you're not going to feel bloated you're not going to feel fatigued like you need to take a nap after you eat a meal those are all signs that something you're eating is not sitting right with your body that's more of a food intolerance symptom yeah and another thing about just what to eat if you're thinking about going paleo just separated into lego some sort of protein like some good high-quality protein like a you know meet some sort of good meat veggies dark leafy greens broccoli spinach that's what I eat and then some sort of legume you know beans black beans whatever um you don't need bread you don't need bread and a lot of people ask me when they find out I'm gluten-free and I don't eat bread they they go well what do you eat like it's like it's a food good as yeah like yeah a lot of paleo people and myself are sort of against legumes because of the argument that it can cause like an inflammatory reaction in the gut but certain people can tolerate them and I have a couple a couple different doctors that I've talked to and ask them you know what do they think about beans and legumes in general the strict paleo people are pretty much against them but it's one of those things you just have to test it for yourself but yeah I mean I've also i've created a food guide for free on my website if people just go to not just paleo calm if they sign up for my email letter my email newsletter I have a free food guide there and it kind of goes through what you need to eat and why you need to eat it as opposed to just this weird dogmatic approach don't eat this eat this I'm your boss listen to me kind of thing it's not like that so that's just another free resource for people yeah people definitely check that out and um about this whole bean thing so I'm actually interested in um maybe maybe if I were to stop eating beans what would I then replace that with what would be a good a good replacement for that kind of complex carbohydrates yeah so yeah right so it's it's definitely something that could help with energy but you'd be surprised the amount of energy that you get from quality fats because you have you have nine calories per gram of fat where carbohydrates is something like four calories so I mean just getting more energy from your meats and your grass-fed butter your coconut oil things like that but if you really are someone who's active which it sounds like you and your audience if they're interested in fitness they're going to be active I personally put a lot of my clients on organic white rice and I've had great success with that just because some people could say oh it's a simple carb because it's white butt white rice compared to brown rice is superior because the brown rice has that sort of shell on it and that she'll that husk rather can be sort of irritating to the gut for some people and I can't do brown rice it hurts my stomach so to save my clients trouble I just automatically put them on white rice that's really interesting because I've I've heard and I assume a lot of other people have heard the whole thing where brown rice is better because whatever you know and I write about the you know because it's white you shouldn't eat it that's one of the rules of the slow carb diet by Tim Ferriss that he has in his book before our body he says avoid any kind of white carbohydrate but white rice seems to be it seems to be okay right yeah I'd have to I'd have to just say that that's wrong just in my experience which i don't know how Tim's experience working with people one-on-one but I mean I do quite a bit of health consulting and people prefer brown rice and I find that brown right or I'm sorry people prefer white rice just because the brown rice just upsets people stomach especially if there's somebody who's already having food sensitivities the brown rice could just send them to the bathroom and you can have diarrhea from it now obviously that's not going to affect everybody the same but it's definitely one of those things where people have to experiment with themselves there's no cookie cutter answer it's sort of you have to try and see how you feel see how your digestion is see how your energy is and then just go from there yeah this has given me a lot to think about I think I want to try replacing my beans with rice because honestly rice tastes better than beans that's yeah that's what I feel I don't I'm not I mostly kidney beans and black beans and they just there I don't know you'll probably start having yeah you'll start probably having better digestion as well yeah they definitely cause um digestive discomfort gasps definitely yeah I mean it's hard for your stomach to break those things down you know that's sort of a food of modern agriculture which rises as well but beans just seem to have a lot more trouble with people and is that is that causing the gas is that a is that a sign that you shouldn't be eating is that your body trying to tell you this is unnatural what's that um is that a compensatory mechanism pretty much well I don't know if I would take compensatory but i would say more of a side effect of a food that's not really not really accepted by the system so the system is just it's trying to break you down but it's having trouble and so you may have undigested pieces in your stool and things like that and the body just really isn't capable of digesting it because it's not programmed if you will into the system and like I said some people can do beans fine and they're shouting right now saying I can do beans but if you just look at some of the research there's some compounds in there that throw people stomach off so it's one of those can't hurt might help to pull it out type things yeah I think I might have to make the switch that sounds good so what advice would you give someone who is listening to this podcast that wants to start going paleo but has limited funding they're worried about oh it sounds like one of those diets that's super expensive what would you say to that person I would tell the person that a diagnosis of cancer or a severe health diagnosis is by far one of the number one most popular causes of bankruptcy in the United States you know a bad health diagnosis is something that makes or breaks families every single day and to willingly leave or people could say that they don't have the the finances to not do this but to willingly continue to eat foods that are going to be you know chemically and nutritionally deprived I mean they they have they have chemicals in them the nutritions low the minerals are low to continue to eat that way is it's a real blow to your health and the only thing that you have in life is your health and if you don't have that you don't have anything you can't you can't pursue why if you can't do activities you can't pick it up and play with your kids you know so really your health should be your number one priority and to put that into perspective you can get a pound at the time right now for for about two dollars you can get a pound of organic frozen broccoli I can't think of much of a better deal and you don't have to have in eight ounce or 12-ounce steak every time you eat your body is very adaptable at adjusting and actually prefers less meat than that you can get away with about 4 to 6 ounces six ounces on the higher end depending on the person if they're an athlete or an active young person you can get away with that amount of quality meat by getting some organic grass-fed meats pasture-raised turkeys things like that organic chicken you can get away with that amount and be pretty satisfied and if you if you add in a handful of pistachios or I happen to love walnuts that can be the additional fat and good calories that you need to really keep you full so it's really not that much more expensive and in the long run the saved cost on your visits to the doctor and your long-term health it's not even a comparison yeah I I know I've definitely felt better from from doing it although again I haven't been super strict I've modified it a little bit but just generally doing it it's I mean I definitely noticed that I I'm not as sick you know you get sick from time to time i get i get sick less often i feel better and it just it's probably one of the best lifestyle changes i've ever made that's great yeah and all you're doing is trying to mimic the foods that would have been around before Doritos were invented you know it's not like you're doing something crazy or just eating real food I mean it's simple right and the word paleo correct me if I'm wrong but it comes from Paleolithic which kind of is a reference to back in the day when we were hunter-gatherers is that correct yeah definitely you know the sort of 10,000 10,000 year ago approach before agricultural foods like corn and these beans and grains and all that before those were really sort of put into play there's obviously some wild seeds and things like that out there but we basically took these plants and bred them with other plants to make bigger seeds I mean even things like strawberries this is kind of what hybrid hybridization is berries in the natural world are very very small but you'll find some strawberries as big as the palm of your hand that's sort of a product of what we've done with agriculture and that's the same thing with beans you know and rice they're essentially just little seeds that as you keep breeding them with bigger and bigger ones eventually you get a bean that's you know the size of a nickel yeah and that's also how gluten was created not necessarily with some evil Monsanto guy in a lab but over hundreds of years of naturally genetically modifying it like the biggest the plants with the biggest thieves were bred with the plants with with the second biggest seeds to create you know all spring that had big seeds you know to satisfy our needs and that's kind of like a natural GMO that was going on and that's how gluten came about it is it correct in a way yeah it's more it's more hybridization genetic modification is something a little bit different but it's it's sort of the same in the fact that you're trying to shape the way that a plant is going to grow and you want it to grow bigger you want it to grow faster you want to require less water things like that but yeah some of the ancient grains that would have existed i'm sure they contained trace amounts of gluten but definitely not the high amounts today you know from the modern the modern grains yeah that's that's a huge problem today that a lot of people don't know about mm-hmm so I got one last question so imagine you woke up tomorrow morning and everything was the same except you were 500 pounds knowing everything that you know now all your techniques and ways to get back in shape how would you do that how would you get yourself back on track I would start the morning by eating three organic eggs a couple tablespoons of grass-fed butter a handful of organic broccoli florets and maybe a small handful of walnuts I would start my day out with that i would say sometime in the middle of the day i would try to head to the gym and do some either light exercise like light weight lifting go for a walk or if I felt well obviously 500 pounds going to be pretty hard to sprint but if I could I would try to do some sort of sprinting or int'l interval training to burn that fat and get that get that good fat burn going right yeah and I guess 500 pounds is kind of a excessive amount but I guess basically what I'm trying to illustrate here is a lot of people want to get back in shape and they're just not sure how to start so people like us who kind of know a little bit about it where are our opinions are valuable to them and that's what I think both of us want to do we want to help people definitely yeah I mean that's my that's my whole business if I don't help people succeed then I go out of business so right so if you could recommend one book for listeners what book would it be yeah I would say the edge effect by dr. Eric Braverman it's a book all about your health as far as your brain health your neurotransmitters your brain chemicals it's really important to understand what type of personality you are based off of your current bring chemical production and it's a really great way to understand the inner workings of the mind and the food mood connection someone kind of got geeked out and interested by our discussion today they would really love this book and it's super cheap on amazon probably 10 bucks but the edge effect dr. Eric Braverman you heard them people go and get it Evan this is really fun thank you so much for coming on the show yeah I appreciate it and it's my pleasure you can find Evan online at not just paleo calm follow him on Twitter at not just paleo and again paleo was spelled PA el e 0 2 days episode is brought to you by on it that's ONN IT click the on it banner head on the sidebar at my website to get awesome supplements like alpha brain shroom texsport hemp force protein powder and many others on it also sells workout equipment like kettlebells battle ropes and steel maces everything they sell is designed to optimize your performance on it total human optimization hey everyone thank you for listening go to the fitness burn calm for info and links from today's show follow me on Twitter at Nate Elmore one and like the fitness podcast page on Facebook this show is sponsored by listeners like you support the podcast by using our affiliate banners to do your shopping on Amazon audible on it and ultimate sandbag training calm there's no extra charge and it helps me keep this thing up and running you .

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and we are live is thought the J here in the house it's Friday can you believe it it's like 9:30 ish and it's pitch-black and raining out I mean you would have no idea I feel like it's 10 o'clock at night here so we get a little rain and thunderstorm going and I look forward to getting some questions answered and in connecting with some peeps so how's everyone doing today I didn't give them to notice on today's chat so I'll kind of give you guys a few minutes to jump on board here and we'll begin so my coffee here I got a key with it mixed with a little bit of Madagascar vanilla and then my coffee so nice little little mix to get a little hint of vanilla in there today which is great gotta love that vanilla is my fave any questions feel free in chime in what do you guys want to talk about what do you all want to talk about I was at paleo effects last Friday we could go today was great we did a talk I did I did a talk on thyroid health it was good we talked about a lot of the kind of the underlying top four or five causes of why you may have a thyroid issue and a lot of people don't know that one of the biggest causes of a thyroid problem is gonna be autoimmune where your immune system is actually attacking your thyroid gland I'd say number two is adrenal and stress issues can easily cost thyroid problems and it does that because the more stressed you are your body is hardwired to take and convert your thyroid hormone into an active thyroid hormone called reverse t3 and that helps kind of hit the receptor site but it doesn't have that same metabolic activity so it's like putting a metabolic blank in your magazine cartridge and then of course stressing cortisol if it's too high or too low that's gonna affect thyroid activation thyroid conversion you we don't have enough cortisol we're not gonna be able to activate that hormone if we have too much cortisol we're gonna shut it down or thyroid hormone down to t3 and then of course gut issues poor diet all the inflammation stuff we need certain nutrients to run those enzymes to activate and convert thyroid hormone alright a couple questions here let's dig in Dylan writes in what do you think of binders activated charcoal bentonite clay zeolite for cleansing the gut do they help break down biofilms since they attract metals and toxins I like I like using activated charcoal I think that's great I take it typically my patients three hours after one hour before a meal that way they're not hitting any herbs and they're not hitting any of the food that way they're going in there and they're kind of cleaning up what's left over I like that I think um activated charcoal and bentonite clay are adds Orban's adds orbán's mean they attract the toxins like a magnet would attract iron filings so it's not quite like a sponge like a fiber it's kind of like a sponge it kind of soaks it up it absorbs with a be activated charcoal bentonite clay adsorb with the d kind of act like a magnet I like I think it's great I'm not sure about activated charcoal in killing biofilms but that's why in my program we always add in ginger tea Ginger's are very powerful biofilm buster so it's silver hope that helps there Dylan hey Matt I've realized that I'm classified as an HSP highly sensitive person have for a long person I have for a long time just wonder what your thoughts are I notice seemingly small things stress well I mean I think if you're more sensitive you really have to make sure that you have a good foundation in your diet and your lifestyle how you handle stress so sleeps got to be dialed in nutrition's got to be dialed in some type of stress reducing activity during the day whether it's meditation or prayer or movement just some kind of routine in there to keep the stress under control and I think it's good to have some kind of a biofeedback device going whether it's an EM wave or an or ring or some kind of HRV just to kind of give you some feedback that your nervous system is doing well and then I always like keeping something like you know magnesium or you know a liposome or gaba or some kind of a dapper gennaker by that way if you get stressed at all you can grab that a lot of people will tend to go grab the sugar or go to drugs or go to stimulants so if we can have constructive vehicles to deal with stress that's much better than the destructive vehicles that conventional medicine will offer or even just natural life offers with a lot of the sugar and the crap tim writes in what's the best protocol the help of food poisoning usually when you find out you usually don't sign up till you start puking feeling nauseous do you take black charcoal at that time great question I had food poisoning last week I had a green drink and I just had massive massive diarrhea now I solved it in like 30 minutes though at first I didn't know was a food poisoning thing I'm like okay maybe you know I had to a lot of MCT oil on my coffee maybe I just had a loose stool right and then after it happened again I'm like something's up took three or four activated charcoal I took my G X there five and four together which is oil of oregano a lot of berberine and I took probiotics with it at the same time probiotics probiotics help with the inflammation they can push out and kind of you know sequester out a lot of the food board illnesses like if it's an e coli issue it can kind of crowd that out it's also a nice anti-inflammatory the activated charcoal kind of soaks up a lot of the toxins it gives them both back to the stool as well in case something's irritating the gut and then the herbs and I did that and then within 30 minutes my stools were solid again no problem but it was bad for 30 minutes if I didn't have that who knows how long o to kept on going I could have kept on going for a couple of days I mean not good but as able to solve it activated charcoal and then in my line I could have probably been fine with just G X there v the mole safai doyle of oregano with the probiotics and with the activated charcoal that probably could have been enough but I added in the four which had the berberine x' in it which is the golden seal the Barbary grapefruit seed extract some olive leaf or olive leaf black walnut etc so that ended up working out great that's kind of my protocol that I would use for food poisoning and anytime I go to Mexico that's what I bring HCL or also digestive support of course but if I have a food issue probiotics activated charcoal GI clear for at GI Claire five all at the same time nonstop throughout the day I hope that helps there Tim are there bad bugs that I should try to take down with a will of oregano or olive leaf well know where to go mmm mmm they're bad bugs I should take down with oil of oregano or olive leaf aged girl like what would be your recommended yes so just the things I mentioned above right my gxr four and five four that would be great those are the herbs I mentioned sodium borate borax clean black mold poisoning regarding black mold if you have lac mold there's a product called corn chromium it's a pretty good mold kind of like i'm encapsulate the mold and kills it that's a pretty good product corn chromium NASA writes in want to know more about renal fatigue tiredness even with low carb diets again some people do really well on a lower carb kind of ketogenic Paleo template because they're coming from a blood sugar rollercoaster diet that is driving insulin resistance that's driving hyper secretions of insulin and it's causing them to be on this blood sugar roller coaster all day so some do really well moving in that direction and again if you move in that direction give it a few weeks because it can take a couple of weeks to a month for your metabolism to adapt to a good ketogenic diet so give that a little bit of time and then if you're hitting the wall with that you can always nudge up the carbs daily or weekly until you feel like you're in a better place can inflammation cause blood viscosity to increase how so definitely can via agglutination right inflammation causes cells to stick together right platelet aggregation causes all the cells to stick together right the more anti-inflammatory you are the more the cells are move and are slippery and they don't clot and decrease blood flow so yeah for sure man I got so many questions I can't even keep track of them here Yes No More writes in dr. J you recommend it carbs or starches mainly at night but if I work out at noon is it okay to have carbs or structures at lunch after workout too I would say yeah I would say you know my exception for carbs earlier in the day tends to be if it's post-workout so I would agree what causes excess vitamin D 1:44 we're not getting much sunlight or supplementing it is that a 25 hydroxy vitamin D be pretty hard to get 144 unless you're getting it in some other form that you're not aware of I would say it's probably getting in there some other way Oscar writes and I want to know if you know C 60 carbon 60 is a new product that is elaborated in olive oil seems to help mitochondria I think you mean a c6 carbon not C 60 carbon but maybe that's the product name so like a c6 carbon that's um that's a hexanoic acid that's like I think they Dave Asprey has one called brain octane it's similar to that so it's supposedly a ketone that's going to help the brain more so that's kind of the big benefit of that Charlie writes in wouldn't the charcoal wipe out the supplements if you take them at the same time I mean to a certain degree the only exception is if you're doing it for food poisoning purposes that's why I would do it right away because you really want to basically decrease the inflammation and decrease the veracity of the infection but typically like I mentioned earlier three hours after one hour before the only exception is if you're taking it because of alcohol purposes or a food purpose or an infection or a food poisoning purpose Ramona right then I discovered that lots of varicose veins in the back of my knees what do you recommend is it reversible typically bioflavonoids are really helpful like OPCs or grapefruit seed extract or resveratrol like a lot of those things are a really good horse chestnut for like vein health but outside of that just getting good movement getting good movement whether you have a rebounder or you're just lifting weights and moving and just keeping inflammation down all that's important if you have a whole body vibration plate that's great if not you know one of those rebounders that you can get at Walmart like a trampoline kind of things great just moving just moving is excellent and then just having good antioxidants and good inflammation and of course good collagen right those veins are made out of connective tissue so good collagen peptides are always gonna be helpful for vein health let's see here Noah writes in anyone is already dealing with some inflammation in the body due to the guts would you avoid using a TENS unit for injury no I mean I'm a big fan of bio electric devices to help with inflammation TENS is kind of more like an electric aspirin it blocks the pain and inflammation there are other things out there I have a couple devices called the ARP wave that are really good that work good Garrett's all peter has a device that's out in the market called the newbie and that's we're gonna have him on the podcast to talk more about that technology but that's a great technology dr. Jay ever since I started AF I've experienced ovarian cysts any suggestion how I can balance my so just curious how do you know that I have caused ovarian cysts because typically aya for intermittent fasting for short is gonna help with insulin sensitivity it's gonna help with insulin resistance essentially make you more sensitive to insulin and high amounts of insulin tend to drive ovarian cysts so did you get a ultrasound before did the if' and then retest and saw cysts or did you do the if' and then test it afterwards because I would guess they were probably already there to begin with it'd be pretty unlikely that I f woulda cause ovarian cysts but again I'm gonna need a lot more info to give you more specific feedback there what you recommended what's your recommendation on healing an infected cyst that has naturally burst you can do like a curcumin or a turmeric paste just Google online like turmeric paste you can put it over that the cyst and then put a bandaid on it and a lot of times it will just suck out all of the toxins and will help with the inflammation is it okay to do a magnet therapy alongside the herb champion for thisi Bo I don't have any problem with that no issues Nora Genesis writes in wood wild-caught salmon and or grass-fed butter be causing high vitamin D possible but I don't think there's enough in there to cause that I mean maybe a couple thousand in just that alone max I don't think enough to get your vitamin D at that level so here I think you wrote earlier about the vitamin D being really high something else is going on there and again the European levels are a little different so just be mindful like if you're in Canada or Europe it's like the metric is to point to lower so 140 in like Europe or Canada could be like equal to like maybe a 50 or 60 so in the u.s. in the 25 hydroxy vitamin D so could be that that you're looking at and just maybe confusing the reference ranges so keep that in the back of your head okay here Oscar writes in C 60 it's 60 carbon soccer ball not sure date rights and recommendations for a hundred percent P protein powder that's not high in metals or toxic metals yes my true P protein true P go to my site Justin Elcom /op true P protein we test that one for metals and it's non G pea protein that's a good one James right Sam happy Friday dr. J have you checked out the magic pill on Netflix all about the ketogenic diet I cut out almonds almond milk seemed to be causing histamine release itchy skin especially on my hands thank you I will check out the magic pill on Netflix thanks James appreciate it yeah that's the thing with keto right I am encountered a couple people at paleo effects where they're like well you know everyone needs to do better on the ketogenic diet everyone should do great and the problem is if you're not a practitioner you have your own experience and if the ketogenic diet like helped you get better then everyone needs the ketogenic diet that's the missing piece for everyone but some people it may not be the missing piece for they may have to adjust their macro or micro nutrients in a way that may not put them at a carbohydrate level that that's you know below 50 or below 30 that essentially keeps them in that ketogenic range so to speak so I'm all about customizing and one of the big pitfalls I'd say of the ketogenic diet is if you're relying on that extra fat from nuts or from dairy there could be sensitivities there and again Rob Wolfe talked about this in his book wire to eat is the immunogenic qualities of certain foods meaning if if you have your immune system is being stimulated by the nuts or by the dairy that can create a stress response and the stress response can increase blood sugar because cortisol is a glucocorticoid steroid and will increase blood sugar mobilization so you can actually jack up your blood sugar through a stress response of food and that's kind of a missing variable that I think a lot of people may miss out on because they're just looking at the carb content of the food and they're forgetting the immunogenic qualities of the food hope that helps let me keep on rolling here guys the questions are just coming in too fast um while doing a parasite cleanse is it okay to blend one banana with my daily green smoothie does the banana have too much sugar if you're doing the parasite cleanse it may be good because a little bit extra car which may help bait some of those critters out kind of like cheese on a mousetrap so I think that's okay as long as it's not causing too many issues like bloating and gas Tiffani right sing good one dr.

J thoughts on probiotic enemas a 12 strain with more bifid O's I find it has helped me and was wondering about your Sacro via backdoor a bad idea so you're talking about Saccharomyces via enema my thing is this I always want to take them orally it's just easier right it's not necessarily the big pain in the butt pun intended there but um I would just see I would just I try to always do things the easiest way possible for the highest level of compliance so I would try to all do it you know through the mouth orally to see what we can do there and I'd only go to an enema or a fecal transplant like worst case scenario I've seen people get really sick on fecal transplants now again you're talking more about a probiotic enema I would say if that's the absolute you know situation you have to go to and taking it orally it's not helping I don't have a ton of experience doing them from in the back door so to speak so I would always try to do them orally and see how you do first Oscar Wrightson do you use bioresonance machinery to treat patients I do not buy bioresonance do you mean something like a write machine it's RIBA the best stake for the highest fat in it I think we're buys great I mean that or like the bottom roast or the bottom cap I think is great but yeah rib eyes are my fav Mike writes in will your thyroid support supplements be enough for me to get off my thyroid may completely or do I need to be careful well it depends on what your pattern is again depending on what kind of thyroid pattern you have and then whether or not your adrenals are involved or whether or not your guts involve it's kind of a load of questioning this is a lot of areas I help people with their thyroid sometimes meaning I help them with their thyroid symptoms sometimes without even touching their thyroid because if we can fix their gut fixed objections fix their adrenals and then support the the nutrients sometimes the thyroid can come back online others have an autoimmunity where their thyroid gland is is just living on a prayer because it's been beaten up by the immune system for decades so everyone's a little different so I would say yes and no depending on what your pattern is and of course there's an assumption that you're making good diet and lifestyle choices too oh okay yeah I would have to see the lab genesis something doesn't make sense with that vitamin D being that high how often do you fast a week I may do like an eye - I always try to do at twelve by twelve you know which is like a 12-hour fast 12-hour eat period and then I'll do like an intermittent fast like one twice a week I try to always do like a bulletproof kind of coffee butter MCT I don't like not eating anything I like having that that good fat in that collagen in the morning some would say that's not a fast of this would say well it's still kind of a protein sparing fast so it depends on what your consider any suggestions for BP regulation normal in the a.m. but seems to increase at night hard to say I mean it could be just stressed from the day I would just look at getting into a good parasympathetic state maybe add some magnesium and see how it goes how much should I cook my greens to lower oxalates how much would a slight elevation and arabinose in organic acids raise oxalates again if your arabinose is elevated it tells me that's a yeast overgrowth so I would work on getting the yeast out cleaning out your gut and the number two I'd only worry about acts oxalates if you're really having a reaction to them whether it's a pain issue or a sensitivity issue I wouldn't try cutting them out you can just steam your food or saute your food that'll cut about 30 to 50 percent of the oxalates down so I wouldn't worry about ox lights unless you're having a kidney stone issue or you're really having muscle pain issue you're really sensitive to it and going low oxalate helps again steaming or sauteing your food won't be enough to like make a high oxalate through low but maybe make a high oxalate food medium and maybe you make a medium one low so just only go that wrote it only go that road if you really need to because it a lot of good foods that are high in ox lights like spinach do you eat awful not sure what that means Oscar rising I'm 9 to improve my microbiome do you think she legit and clays have soil probiotics oil probiotics seem to be the next step to improvement in the probiotic industry yeah I mean I like megaspore that's more of a spore based from a soil base there's prescript assist they change the formula recently but those are some good options to help improve your gut health you know once you know your guts clean and he writes in what's the best time to take probiotics depends I like in the morning or at night first thing on an empty stomach I think it's great there could be some benefit that they get with food so but morning and night I think is a great time you welcome nor I hope that helps and then can you give some advice for central sleep apnea Darren Schmidt says that AR the key what's your take what is a RN stand for Oscar let me know any difference between vs frozen veggies and fruits what is V S stand for vs frozen veggies and fruits let me know your meadow synergy is phenomenal even at one dose I feel an increase in energy any other mitochondrial support that you could recommend pqq or berberine yeah pqq is great thanks for your feedback James pqq was excellent I like that and then depending on what you need some people can even go for extra Co Q 10 or karna t and it just totally depends okay so fresh versus frozen veggies ideally if your fresh are gonna be within a day or two for sure the problem is a lot of people are eating their veggies like where they're getting them a day or two before they're about to wilt so to speak so I would go with frozen if you know you're not gonna eat them fast I think having some frozen ones I always have like a bag of frozen broccoli or kale or you know peas or carrots or something simple that's there because sometimes the veggies turn so if you can eat your veggies faster and they're not gonna wilt and you know they haven't been at the shelf you know for days already at the store that I think it's okay I'm sorry RNA ribonucleic acid it depends I mean RNA I mean that's a standard processed product that Darren is talking about I find that sleep apnea there's a couple ways you never won you can have your your mouth evaluated to make sure that there's not anything going on with the jaw with your tongue those kind of things again I would see that being a long-term issue you would notice that would would be a problem probably for a long period of time I find people have sleep apnea as they get older and that's because inflammation accumulates as they get older oxidative stress accumulates I find getting inflammation in the body improved makes a huge difference on sleep apnea the tongue the jaw is less inflamed the Airways are more dilated or opened body's more resilience I mean one thing that you can do is just do some mouth taping and then that way you're breathing through the nose I find it like if I'm sleeping on my back and I get a little too much saliva kind of congealing in my throat and I breathe through the mouth sometimes that can block the throat a tiny bit so you could always do some mouth taping to help with that that way it's forcing it through your nose and there won't be necessarily any blockage from any saliva hanging in the back of your mouth and then the air coming in do you eat liver organ meat often okay so that's the offal you mean I don't eat it too often but I mean if I do eat it I'm gonna get it from like a epic bar or I'm gonna get like if I go out I'll do like some liver some foie gras at a nice restaurant so that's kind of where I'll I'll typically get that either an epic bar or some foie gras a u.s. wellness meats has some really good liver too so that works pretty good he's putting ice on an injury not a good idea after because you want the inflammation and the blood flow in the area acutely for healing that's a great question that's a really really good question we definitely don't want heat we don't want to accelerate the inflammation but you know there's some I've read a couple of you know blog post on this where they talk about you know twenty minutes on three hours off is kind of the conventional thinking and of course any time there's a conventional thinking about something I always tend to want to go the opposite I'm okay with it acutely but I think if you have an injury like that you really want to make sure the soft tissue gets worked on and you want to make sure that you're you're giving a lot of good anti-inflammatory support because the problem is the inflammation response kind of gets out of control and then that can prevent healing from happening in the long run so you want to get the inflammation down later on but in the beginning the inflammation actually helps vasodilate so you can get a lot of immune response there but down the road you want to work on getting that better I would say I'm on the fence I would still probably ice but I would really work on getting the underlying soft tissue fixed and then work on treating the inflammation inside out not just topically with ice but with fish oil with curcumin with boswellia with um with up healing collagen peptides - was your green drink poisoning from a store or a bought fresh made from home it was from a store it was from the store and it was like a good brand - and I've had it in the last two days in a row and I had no problem so it may just been one isolated incident hard to say and then anyway to pick green powder drinks that will not bloat any ingredient stay away from depends if you're really sensitive to five Maps then you may have to be really careful and try to do lower fodmap green vegetables which may be really hard I would say get the SIBO fix get all that dialed in and you'll probably be good to go first can you take multiple types of magnesium at the same time like citrate which helps a constipation but also want to take alpha innate which crosses the blood-brain I have no problem with that I mean you can do some like natural calm for the bowels and you can do like some magnesium gel or a three and eight for brain or free relaxation I have no problem with that all right guys I gotta jump on a patient call here phenomenal chatting I'll be back on Monday again make sure you sign up for that thyroid reset summit thyroid reset summit comm click on the link below it's gonna be great lots of the interviews that I'm doing as we speak phenomenal chatting guys you have a phenomenal day we'll talk soon take care .

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