Paleo vs Keto Diets: What’s the difference?

so hubs howdy wife we've been getting a lot of questions about the difference between a Paleo diet and the keto diet clearly keto is very popular people are seeing it everywhere so let's tackle that today yeah it's it's a should theoretically be easy to unpack that there are a lot of nuances and so maybe let's look at what a paleo diet is first and you can tackle that by inclusion or exclusion so the exclusion is a paleo diet is usually free of grains legumes and dairy and the theory behind this is that if we look at what generally was available to hunter-gatherers and there were some pretty good information around that people will kind of get freaked out about you know the the veracity or the depth of that knowledge but in general we didn't have lots of grains legumes and dairy available until the advent of Agriculture so by inclusion of Paleo diet is usually built around lean protein seasonal fruits and vegetables roots and tubers that's that's kind of story now one of the big challenges with the Paleo diet is it's become almost this like religious process and people end up asking is it paleo instead of just asking is this a good option for me and when we talk about good options typically what we're talking about is nutrient density immunogenicity of the food like does it cause an immune response a lot of common allergens we saw way corn you know these things are really common so not everybody has problems with them but a lot of people do so on the ketogenic diet side it really is quite a bit easier although dr. Ted Nieman has a really interesting infographic that kind of breaks down the different ways to get into a ketogenic state but in general what we're talking about is a carbohydrate restrictive diet and we have adequate protein and then fat to a degree that kind of flips the lever of if we are a performance-oriented athlete we probably eat a lot of fat to make up the calories that we need if we are looking to lose body fat that we need a caloric deficit and so we're going to set our fat levels somewhat lower so on the Paleo diet side we also have the additional caveat what I would call the Paleo template which is looking at sleep and circadian rhythm we're thinking about community we're thinking about the gut microbiome and so it's really what we would call in broader terms an ancestral health or evolutionary medicine template the ketogenic diet fits within that story perfectly and really I've made the point that the the Paleo diet should be approached in what I call a macro macronutrient agnostic fashion and what that means is we're focusing on food quality first and then you figure out what the the relative ratios of protein carbs fat are that you need to work optimally I'll use myself as an example just just briefly I despite being much healthier than what I was in my 20s and 30s I'm still not super duper carb tolerant I'm better than what I was in the past but a really large bowl of rice or something like that it's going to give me sky high blood sugar levels we've done some self experimentation where you ate the the right side eat the rice we checked blood sugar at two hours and you kicked my ass on it like your blood sugar barely got above like 110 or something mine was nearly 190 which is near diabetic levels so that is a piece of this story I to be healthy need to eat a lower carb intake I'm also quite guman intolerant if you eat a piece of French bread you'll get a little bit of kind of belly swell but it's not that big of a deal like two hours later you're fine so these are kind of the the personalized nutrition elements that we end up augering down and getting more granular for each of us and this is what we're recommending to other folks is you know look at this big picture of what goes into a paleo diet which is typically whole unprocessed foods nutrient density is kind of a primary concern but that all applies to a ketogenic diet as well and there are a lot of people for whom a ketogenic diet is really the the best tool in the tool shed there are some people for whom a ketogenic diet may not be the appropriate tool at all and in it too I do recognize that we don't need a one-size-fits-all world even though lots of people try to make it that way if all that we had were hammer nails are houses wouldn't stick together all that well um I would make the point that in many ways approaching the world from this ketogenic diet perspective could simplify this whole story or just low carbon here's kind of my thought we look at what your carb tolerance is and this will be determined by genetics by epigenetics including your sleep in kind of circadian though we know from the work that we've done with the Reno police and fire projects that people who are in circadian rhythm disrupted environments basically shift work their insulin resistant and the only lever we have to flip from there is their nutrition and typically we recommend a low carb diet so we find the carb level that works well for folks and then we just look at this range of what I would call immuno genic foods which is typically grains legumes and dairy and we just ask a question do I do well with those foods in the way that we determine that isn't an elimination diet we remove these foods from the program for 30 days reintroduce and see how you do and so in that regard if we I would almost argue that a simpler approach is using low carb or keto as a baseline add in these other elements of the evolutionary medicine story sleep and circadian rhythm gut health and whatnot and it really simplifies the process instead of asking a million questions is this paleo instead we have a really stepwise process where we start with appropriate glycemic load then we find out if we have immuno genic problems with foods basically in tolerances and we set amounts and ratios appropriate for what our goals are and then also flesh out the rest of our lifestyle with an eye towards sleep and gut health now it's it's interesting because clearly a ton of people have lost a lot of weight on a paleo diet and a lot of people are losing a tremendous amount of weight on keto and I think the easier bit with keto know how do you expand on this a bit is that like with paleo people you know like you mentioned there's certain foods that you don't eat but there's no real limit on calories like you're not looking you're not specifically it's limiting your caloric intake whereas on Akita diet keto diet especially if you are someone who has a significant amount of weight to lose it can really help simplify things because you you are eating at that caloric deficit yeah you know like some folks like the keto games folks and whatnot they have done a great job of helping people to determine an appropriate macronutrient ratio adequate protein carbs fat so that they're in that ketogenic state but more importantly they're in a mild caloric deficit and the results that they're getting are absolutely remarkable anything else do you think people should know I know there's another question that came up also how is keto different from Atkins yeah in you that's a great question and really they're kind of kissing cousins and the distinctions become really although whole religions have been founded on on minor distinctions and philosophy but the Atkins historically has been a ketogenic diet for about a two to four week period an induction phase tends to reverse insulin resistance tends to help people become what we would call fat burners and then from there Atkins historically recommended that you titrate carbohydrates up to a point in which you don't see problems and so they end up being very very similar there's also a thing called a modified Atkins which is a higher protein intake than what we would typically see with in standard ketogenic diet circles and then finally if we really dig in the history of the ketogenic diet the classic nutritional ketogenic diet that is used for epilepsy was a very high fat very low protein low carbohydrate diet that's not necessarily what we and most people in this kind of performance and esthetics world are recommending for the vast majority of people who just want to look feel and perform better but there is definitely a place for that that you know well-formulated nutritional ketogenic diet for things like epilepsy and other neurodegenerative conditions so babe given the you've helped so many people lose weight transform their health with paleo and like we've like we've mentioned quito is is very popular right now and we're seeing lots of people especially people who've just struggled to drop you know maybe their 300 pounds 400 pounds and they they've just struggled to find about something that would work for them and we're finding tremendous success with the Quito so to that end you've been working we've been working on a big project you want to tell folks a little bit about that yeah and before I mentioned the project I will mention what some people it appears if they have been significantly overweight for long periods of time they may actually have some alterations and their hypothalamus the energy regulating center of the brain and up until this point every approach that these folks have tried has typically failed they're always hungry they're debilitated by by a hunger and a desire to effectively overeat and the ketogenic diet is interesting in that it appears to reset that hypothalamic dysregulation and particularly over the course of time we've seen a lot of reports of folks like you you mentioned 300 400 pounds in body weight significantly overweight and for the first time in their lives or at least for the first time in in you know immediate memory these folks are not chronically hungry and so there's something about that ketogenic state that allows people to regulate their hunger and to eat appropriate amounts of food and they subsequently have some great success and that success is the reason why we put together this program which is called the keto masterclass keto masterclass is a 13 module course which includes a 13 video module course it includes a comprehensive workbook it has some really cool bonus features like a 45 day program so it guides you through 45 days of your eating you're tracking your sleep and paying attention to a lot of these different levers that factor into weight loss and then also exercise right right yeah yeah and even though it's comprehensive it's simple it is a simple program you don't need a PhD in biochemistry to be able to navigate this this program great and if folks want to check out the keto masterclass you can click the link that's in and we're gonna ask some questions because a lot of people who gets started on it on a new way of eating typically run aground in a couple of areas either social situations co-workers family members they kind of derail what the person is up to kind a little bit of sabotage going on oftentimes folks can get started in there on a great path but then life gets in the way and they get really busy and time crunched or folks are doing great but then they hit what you call the dreaded but the perceived plateau so don't have some some strategies for that and then also just figuring out how to do it right so how much do protein carbs in fact do I eat what do you know how do I go about this new way of eating and so we'll ask some questions to kind of figure out what your challenge is and we'll be providing some some tips to address those challenges as well and then from there if you're interested in signing up for the keto masterclass they'll be information for you to do so as well .

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Paleo and keto…two popular ways of eating that have changed a lot of people’s lives.

So, what’s the difference between the paleo diet and the keto diet? How are they similar? Which one is better?

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Paleo vs Keto: What's the Difference?

Hey guys, alright so if you've landed here,
you're probably curious about the difference between the ketogenic diet and the paleo diet. Um, you're probably interested in losing weight,
which is why most people go on a diet specifically, but also lifestyle change. What's the difference between the Paleo Diet
and the Ketogenic Diet?

Which one is more effective in terms of losing
weight. I'm going to talk about this and I'm just
going to go quickly over the history of the paleo diet and the history of the ketogenic
diet and why they were developed. The Paleo Diet was originally brought to mainstream
media by a guy named Dr.

Loren Cordain. He wrote book, back in 2002, it didn't become
well know until 2009 when the Paleo Diet became like this cult diet that people were following
in order to lose weight fast. And now it's insanely popular though mainstream,
all kinds of media, whether it be blogs, podcasts, people talking about it on mainstream news. So, in general, the Paleo Diet is an all meat,
vegetables, nuts, seeds and berries, is the general guidelines for that diet. Why those things?

Because those were the things, 10,000 years
ago plus, in the Paleolithic era, we were able to have at our finger tips.

We would hunt and gather and that's the foods
that we'd be able to eat. Foods like potatoes would be eating in moderation
and the same thing for rice or grains, because they were really hard to harvest and they
were really hard to cook. Imagine trying to eat grains without a pot
and being able to boil it. So those are some of the reasons behind, the
whole strategy behind the Paleolithic Diet. Now, the Ketogenic Diet is completely different.

The Ketogenic Diet was developed in the 1920's
for people with epilepsy and it was used as the main source of treatment for people with
epilepsy from the 20's into the 30's. And then what happened was we developed a
drug to help with epilepsy and basically the drug took the place of the Ketogenic Diet,
which sidelined it for a really long time. Now, the problem is the Ketogenic Diet was
a much healthier version or way to help people with epilepsy, but there was also a side effect
that came with that. People would have insane fat loss. It wasn't viewed as a weight loss or fat loss
diet.

It was viewed as a diet that helped people
with epilepsy. But it didn't take off as a "DIET" until much,
much later. Actually until Dr. Atkins made it a little
bit more famous in the 80's. Or actually I think it was the 70's.

So, here's the deal. The Paleo Diet and the Ketogenic Diet are
quite different in terms of macronutrients. Now, the Paleo Diet doesn't really have a
macronutrient profile. However, Dr. Loren Cordain, the author of
"The Paleo Diet," says that the Paleo Diet is a high protein diet.

But that has been over the last 6-7 years,
there's a lot of paleo people out there, Robb Wolf being one of them, people I've interviewed
on my podcast that talk about the Paleo Diet and they kind of take what Cordain has talked
about and they've molded it to a somewhat more modern, some would say bastardized version
of the original. And they've created a Paleo Diet that's a
little more user friendly. So, you might see less of a high protein diet
and more of a balanced diet where people are having, they're staying within the guidelines
of the nuts, seeds, berries, vegetables and meats. But they're broadening the spectrum on the
macronutrients. So it's not necessarilly one or the other.

In terms of weight lose, you can skew some
of you macros to get the results, but that's a whole other video. Now, with the Ketogenic Diet, that is a HIGH
FAT diet, specifically. There is no debate about that. You're talking about a high fat diet that
strictly talks about having at lease 70% fat, 25% protein and 5% carbohydrates. That might sound really delicious to think
about being able to have 70% of your calories coming in from fat, but I'll tell you this
right now, it's not an easy thing to do.

It actually takes a lot of work, a lot of
planning. But the benefits can be significant for people
that need to lose a significant amount of weight. Body fat specifically. Now, those ratios. That 70%, 25%, and 5%, those ratios are not
necessarily set in stone, but they're really good markers, guidelines for achieving ketosis.

Which is the process in which the body is
burning fat a source of energy as apposed to burning glucose as a source of energy. We think of glucose or glucose is what we
get from our carbohydrates. Our body naturally converts the carbohydrates
into glucose as a source of energy. But when we eliminate the carbohydrates, we
drive them down to 5% or below, which generally is around 20 grams of carbohydrates per day. Our body starts to then utilize the fats that
we're bringing in and our body goes through this state called "ketosis" or transitions
into a state called "ketosis." Where we're burning FAT as a source of energy.

Now, again if your goal is to lose extreme
amount of wait through fat lose, why wouldn't you want to turn your body in to a fat burning
machine?

There're certain caveats that have to mentioned
when doing the ketogenic diet. The body doesn't easily transition from burning
glucose to burning ketones as source of energy. There is something called the "keto flu,"
and that's where you're going to have really low energy, you're gonna have brain fog. You might have extreme fatigue, to the point
where, literally getting out of bed, it's going to feel like you're depressed and sometimes
people feel like got hit by a truck the day before, where their bodies are just done. And that's without doing any physical activity.

So you're going to go through this phase called
the "keto flu." Once you're on the other side of that. The process of you're body converting glucose
burning to ketone burning, once you're through that, you are now in this "ketosis" state. Which means your body's burning ketones. And once you're in that state, your energy
levels jump. You have all these benefits.

From your body being a ketone burning machine,
your blood pressure should go down, you cholesterols transition into a much more favorable cholesterol
ratio. If you guys are interested, there're a couple
of different books that you can read on this. There's one called The Ketogenic Diet by a
good friend of mine, Kristen Mancinelli. You can definitely check that out, that's
on amazon. But generally it's a very strict diet to follow.

Unlike the paleo diet, which has guidelines,
but not necessarily really rigid strict guidelines. If you're gonna do the Paleo Diet, you could
just pick up and do that anytime. You can have a dinner party and have people
over and they don't even know they're eating Paleo. But if you were doing a Ketogenic Diet, it's
going to be much more difficult to go out to dinner, it's going to much more difficult
to have people over for dinner. You're gonna be making food that are slightly
different from "main stream" foods.

Such as high cream, high fat foods that most
people would think are insanely unhealthy. But in reality if you're using the proper
ingredients, they can be extremely beneficial and healthy for your body. Some of the food, and I'm just going to list
off a few. Some of the Paleo food would be meat, poultry,
fish, non-starchy vegetables, you could have sweet vegetables as well, like tubers, healthy
fats: olive oil coconut oil and avocado oil. That holds true the same for the Ketogenic
diet.

And moderate amounts of fruit in the paleo
diet. Why moderate amount of fruit?

People always ask that question. Because, think about this, if you live a place
that has seasons, which a lot of places in this world do most of the time, we don't have
access to tons and tons of fruit, all the time. It's seasonal. So we might have a few months out of the year
when berries are in harvest.

And the same thing for apples and bananas
and all that stuff. Unless you grew up in a tropical place. Foods to avoid in the Paleo Diet: grains,
dairy, certain kinds of dairy. Now this again is Dr. Cordain's recommendation,
but since then lots of other Paleo experts have kind of moved away from the "no dairy"
method.

So they've started to incorporate that into
their diets as well. And then the Keto is almost exactly the same
thing, except for Keto, the foods to eat would be the dairy and foods to avoid would be all
of your sweet vegetables and tubers, all grains, avoid basically all high carb dairy, which
is basically fat-free dairy. If you look on the back of any fat-free dairy
product, the carbohydrates are a little bit higher, the sugars are a little bit higher. In order for that food to taste good, they
had to increase the sugar content. If you remove fat, all that's left is the
carbs.

And fruits are off the table when you're talking
about Ketogenic Diet. They're just off the table, period. So, in summary, they can both be very effective
diets. But if you're goal is to lose like 10 pounds
or 20 pounds, my recommendation would be to do the Paleo Diet. The paleo diet, if you're now at this point
having a standard American diet, which means you're having cereal in the morning maybe
and you're having a sandwich for lunch and then you're having meat and potatoes or pasta
for dinner.

That's a pretty standard American diet. But you transition from there to a Paleo Diet,
which is basically, none of that shit and you're eating ton of meat and vegetables,
well you're gonna start losing weight pretty quick. So, if you have to lose 10 or 20 pounds, you
can lose 2 pounds a week and basically be at your goal within 2 or 3 months. If you have like 30 to 100 pounds to lose,
my recommendation would be doing the Ketogenic Diet. It can take you up to, and for some people
it takes a month to transition from that "keto flu" like I was talking about.

It could take 8 days, it could take a week
for a lot of people, but for some people I've read and have a client where it's taking longer
than that. So that's just a difficult phase to get through,
but once you're on the other side of it and you're really rocking and rolling the weigh
loss can be significant. What you can do is create a strategy around
this. If you have 30 or 40 pounds to lose, you do
more of a ketogenic diet to start out with and after you reach your goal and then you
transition to a Paleo diet. It's all basically the same foods, with the
exception of one or two, but the ratios are completely different.

But your going from a "whole food" diet to
a "whole food" diet, rather than what most people do, which is why we have the yo-yo
dieting, most people go on a diet, like the keto diet, which is an extreme diet and then
they transition right back to the old diet that got them in the same place to start with. So that would be my recommendation. Start with the keto if you have a lot of weight
to lose and then transition into the paleo diet. If you don't have that much weight to lose,
try out the Paleo Diet. And don't look at these as a "diet" guys.

Look at this as a lifestyle. This is the way you should be eating for the
rest of your life. You're not stopping yourself from eating all
these delicious foods. In fact, the Paleo Diet and the Ketogenic
Diet, all of them give you the opportunity to eat really good, healthy, delicious food
all the time. It's just you creating a structure around
all of that in order to create a lifestyle you can maintain for the rest of your life.

So that's it for me. The difference between the Paleo and the Ketogenic
Diet. Thanks for watching. .

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Wondering what the difference is between the Paleo Diet and the Ketogenic Diet?



I wrote a blog about it that goes into full detail, but take a listen to this video if you'd like to get started soon.

Paleo vs Keto is not as much a competition as to which is better, but more of a decision of which diet is best for the goals you are setting for yourself.

Do you want and need to lose a lot of weight? Maybe the Ketogenic Diet is better.

Do you want to lose 20 pounds? Maybe the Paleo Diet is better for you in that case.

I'd love to hear your feedback in the comments below.

If you'd like to learn more about the Paleo Diet, check out this book. Dr. Loren Cordain is the Godfather of Paleo. It's the best place to start.


Learn more about the Ketogenic Diet here:


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Empowered by Paleo Nutrition for Women with Helen Marshall

welcome back to the on-track videocast I'm your host Karen Martel and today we're talking kind of all things primal but inspirational and law of attraction and just you know empowerment for women and I'm doing this today with my friend Helen Marshall who's all the way over in Australia as she's it's like first thing in the morning for her and early evening for me Helen Marshall is a certified primal health coach and founder of the grain free food range primal alternative Helen hosts the primal alternative podcast on the wellness couch which is the number-one-ranked health and wellness podcast station in Australia thank you for being here Helen so called the Hangout you again Karen yes I wish to start her podcast I was like I enjoyed the conversation so much we had so much in common that I asked town to come on to this podcast because she's extremely empowering inspirational woman and I just want to share her story with all of my listeners so Helen tell just tell me how like everybody kind of in this industry you were not always doing so well with your health were you know which was really annoying to be honest because I've always been really highly motivated when it comes to my health okay so um you know I mean I was a fitness instructor will actually robux teach you see it's like kind of telling my age and the death dates that I went to the do's you did you wear the spandex one-piece suits or definitely want a g-string you know you did they're not that old you know so my gosh I think I was more of a skid so I think my mum was wearing those clothes even though you and I are the same age I had a young mom and she was wearing I remember dressing up in those leotards with the g string up the butt so yeah yeah well I was teaching aerobics from the age of 14 so I guess Wow yeah I was just so into it I was very good at sports but I had to do like a sporty thing as part of the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme which is like a English who could head in principle word scheme it's a very English program and there was no spot that I liked you know in netball I'd be like throw the ball to me throw the ball to me and they want to just ignore me so I always used to drop it you know so when I found aerobics and movement and music I was like oh my god this is my thing this is my thing and I went to the classes all like so safe there was like three classes in a row I'd go to the mall like I just loved it so much and when the the aerobics instructor Mandy when she went on holidays she said oh you know my routines because back in the day you didn't need to be qualifies you know my routine can you just use my tapes yeah my cassette can you do the questions from me while I'm on holidays so from there for another ten years I was a fitness instructor I got qualified right in the end I got insurance and stuff right super super motivated and you know so this men back then like in then in the 90s well even now to follow the conventional wisdom which was a low-fat high-carbohydrate diet I wouldn't so much as touch avocados because let's just pure fat right and I have much done on so many salads without dressing because you know yeah yeah like all of that wasted all those wasted vitamins because there was no fat to absorb all those beautiful Bittman so so yes so anyway and so then I moved out of the leisure industry because the areas were rubbish and the pay was average and moved to a corporate world because I wanted to see em to make a bit more money and so what worked in the corporate world for about ten years still going to the gym still following the law that message and then my thirties I went on to really test my system by having two children which was really just kind of I was really lucky actually to fall pregnant and have children because I think my body was in a bit of a wreck yeah so when I went on to do that and then just that constant this and all the mothers out there will appreciate the constant Liss of parenting you know it's just there's ever really any off time you're feeding through the night you're a bloody early and then when you do finally get that time to yourself in the evening you kind of collapsing in the heap and yeah I just had this over where I didn't feeling of nausea so I was just feeling sick all the time and I couldn't prove can sleep my default mood was one of just pure overwhelm like what's the point it's too hard how am I gonna get all this washing done like seriously I mean it's just ridiculous the look by now having any other washing done how am I gonna make for dinner tonight I could have done with some of your meal planning I think Karen because I just said no I was like seriously this was just too hard for me and you know became my worlds became very small like if you imagine you imagine you've got a hangover you don't feel like going very far do you right or if you've got a morning sickness you just think oh I don't really you know so I couldn't like commit to like a group event where it's going to be there for a few hours in case I didn't feel so good you know so my world's got really really small and I developed a fear of flying so I didn't go anywhere for ten years because all we now know the good brain connection but this pure absolutely terrified of flying so I'm from the UK my husband's from New Zealand we live in Australia so you can't fly anywhere you've been a bit isolated from your family you know so yeah look you've just got to be a really horrible small not even in existence and just this this voice in my head all the time I see this isn't me like this I'm a positive bubbly person what is this an dinner and my husband was just passed himself here it's like what's wrong with you girl you know Kiwi what's wrong I killed just want you to be better aid they're like seeing you like this girl you know in a desperate attempt I was just said to him look I feel so so crap I think I need to go and see in that path and that pasture so expensive she's probably just gonna tell me to go gluten free and it just kind of like came just out like I never had considered going go ahead and free I didn't think that was what I needed to do and I was like huh hmm where's that come from it's like okay well maybe I'll just gluten-free I don't need to go to a naturopath to try that you know so I went out there's like this is easy you just went out to the shops got some gluten-free pasta gluten-free bread going free everything else that we had gluten him and I was like oh I can do this but the food was absolutely disappointing it's poison like this would all right yeah and and yeah so I was like a kid so as I put it on Facebook you know it's like right I'm gonna go going free to hold myself accountable like you do and one of my girlfriend's said why don't you try paleo I've never heard of this pilio before right we live in the country and not much of that going on other is now of course so Google did not like no grain it's not gluten melaku no sugar no dairy no alcohol I was like what the hell like that's what I've survived on for the last terrible it was so crap I was like you know I'll do it I'll do this I'll do this paleo six weeks right it's a hot thirty and I'll just go back to eating what I was eating before because he can't eat that high fat food for too long anyway obviously it wouldn't be laughing and probably relating I couldn't believe how much better I felt just like there was that horrible detox period I was like I'm feeling worse than I was what's going on I'm like feeling worse than I was feeling before I feel more sick I've got worse headaches but then after popped out like day five I was like oh my god is like somebody just gone he had lifted and everything kind of went like the colors were better the music was better my mood was better and there's still a little bit of underlying nausea it turns out had Sieber yeah but but then it's just kind of like that sort of went away and the fatigue lifted and then it's just sort of I don't know you you just sort of goes a little bit better a little bit better a little bit better a little bit the same a little bit better you know like it's just you know honest journey of just getting more feeling more amazing so that's my sorry Wow so when you look back on it how long do you feel like like do you know now what was going on and maybe prior to pregnancy why was it that pregnancy do you think was kind of the breaking point because I think it is for so many women it was for me it was like I could looking back I knew that I was not doing great before pregnancy but I was it was easy enough to ignore and just think well this is normal and it wasn't till after pregnancy that it was like oh now I can't hide from this like this is bad cuz I kept gaining weight and just feeling worse and worse worse so looking back on your life do you see that you were not like healthy before and then what kind of happened that made that the breaking point well you're not thought I was healthy I thought it was healthy I really did and because I was doing everything right I mean we were buying all that organic vegetables so like you know I was eating all kind of vegetables but eating you know pasta and all the things I'm definitely I haven't been tested for celiac because once I've given up photos no way I was going back to it you need to have the bread to be tested yeah celiac but I know I'm definitely going intolerant like gluten is my kryptonite but I didn't know that before like I remember when I went to a nutritionist sorry a dietitian to lose some weight and I said I mean I'm just I had just like intuitively started buying gluten-free pasta don't know why I think I thought gluten Troy was healthy you know and she said oh no no you don't you need to have the gluten in it because gluten is a protein and well it takes longer to digest so that's going to help you lose weight so like all this just crap you know this is crap I say that I think I was just confused I didn't know and you know looking back I've had mental health issues I've had acne like in my when I was 19 I had a massive childhood of lots of antibiotics you know and when you when you look back now when you know what you know you can say okay I can see now but at the time I really thought I was giving it my best and you know all the way through my pregnancy with Millie my second child I was taking like pretty hardcore antacid tablets because you know the hurt less yeah and the hobby was horrendous you don't you don't know um what you know until you know what you know if you know what I know I know what you mean do I ever yeah I feel like it's Iran in Westen child's book no non-western child what was it what's the night prize yes thank you there's Western a child was erased his book the children wine did you read the baby and children anyways they it was the first time I had read that women should be waiting for years now between children because we are so nutrient deficient that we're so wiped out now when we have a kid we should be waiting to replenish those stores and I thought in it for say it that hit me so hard because I think of how many women have these kids right now back to back and then go through this you know period of being very sick afterwards depressed and anxiety and weight loss resistance and hormone dysfunction and I think it's just like you we were even if we were eating healthy because I was too I mean I had abused my body a lot in other ways but I was actually a very healthy eater and yeah that pregnancy it was just the tipping point that just wipe me out so I just think I must have been so nutrient deficient same as you including intolerant and it was just this tipping point of going down then that pathway of illness which is great because this let's let us here and now we can help other women do what we did right that's right yeah but you don't think you I think when you're preachin excuse me we've been talking so much this weekend we've but and then Melbourne for the Wellness Summit which is like that probably the biggest wellness event in Australia and just being like a whole three days of talking on the stage and talking to customers and network here with amazing your wellness people and yeah hanging out with all the Prime Minister's so sorry if I'm a little bit yeah you know like there's nowhere to hide when you book here because you can't just sneak off and have some quiet time really because you know as soon as you try and you know I think that that kind of just really exposes any areas where you know like where you were previously probably just struggling through and and you know and get him by but you know I had everything that you've mentioned just the weight loss resistance hormone dysfunction oh just everything just a real nothing you do you nothing that you could go to the doctor's with and they would say oh it's this you know yeah oh your cortisol is way too high and you need to relax and right yeah because I felt so crap I was like I must be dying of something horrible like she can't feel like this and to be honest that film I felt so crappy I think if I was told I was dying of some awful disease it would have been a relief like and so went for everything I had like a full body scan million blood tests all sorts of stool samples and the doctor just said to me there's nothing wrong with you like you might have a bit of irritable bowel syndrome but there's no drug for that and you're probably just depressed so go and see a psychologist and see you later basically that's what it was I got the antidepressant and it just didn't work of course right yeah the other way around so tell me about how your journey then came about inserting your business tell us a little bit about your business because it's it's amazing thank you well when I turned actually ended up I didn't go primarily sorry I didn't go paleo I ended up finding marks system right at the beginning of my venturing into Google in paleo journey and primal just really resonated with me because paleo can be quite dogmatic and quite black and white whereas primal was very much like it wasn't just all about the food you know there's a lot of you know it starts with food but it goes into all different areas of your life which you known so mark offered a lot of amazing advice around sleep I mean I didn't know rest was important at this stage of my life you know because you just kind of told to be productive and go-go-go and and so yeah all of the things around like sunshine and nature and connection and sleep it was kind of like mark was just telling me something that on a deep cellular level I already knew you know it just totally made sense and his primal connection book as well I was like oh my god yes you know yes this totally totally resonates and aligns with me so because I was feeling so much better I really felt like I wanted to go back in time and mop up all of that shitty advice I'd given so all those women who wants to see me to lose weight and tone up because that's what everyone wants to do and you know I love the crappy advice I've given around calories in calories there and all that so I just felt like if I could just have one woman who feels like me if I can just help her to get better then I think just it was compelled you know I needed to do this so qualify that so just talking you know people I said blogging because he doesn't matter less like needs to get this stuff out there people would stop me in the street and put their hand on my arm and say Helen I've been taking on C nausea tablets for five years like what can I do what do I eat it's like what do I give my kids you know so I started having primal chats with people and organized like primal chats at my house and we'd have bone broth and make some stuff yes and then and really it was it was really to be honest there's me just boring people to tears with everything that I knew about probably videos like I must tell you this I must mention the barefoot walking on the beach and so they basically basically go away like oh my god I couldn't possibly do this lifestyle because it's just so much stuff like so overwhelming I thought I need to to qualify so I can actually need to qualify as a health coach they can actually coach people and not just bore people to do a lot of this information but the primal health coaching course microsystems course it's fantastic really gives you amazing tools to be actually relevant to your to your to your client which is which is great so I started to do that and soon very soon start to realize that the had got the best results when I brought women together in a group so and now only run online group coaching courses because sisterhood is I don't have any real sisters no real siblings but there's something about sisterhood and women coming together to hold it to they're accountable celebrate success support one another in a non-judgmental non-competitive way that is probably the most primal thing of all you know it's really amazing just an amazing energy I know you know and the most people listening to this to be like yeah yeah so so I only do their online group coaching courses now but and I've got a lot of kickback from my clients you know they were like look Helen like staff good on a Monday I'm chopping my spread free vegetables that I've got from the farmers markets and I'm slow cooking my grass-fed meat it's being kissed by angels and sit down from the monks you know do my kombucha I've got my bone broth in the slow cooker and I'm going good but then by the time Friday I kind of I'm a bit tired I've got a full-time job I'm in a few and I find myself reaching for the takeaway menu and then I feel a bit crap because I'm doing that so I think well might as well finish off this bottle of wine and I might as well just go and polish off that layer of ice cream in the freezer as well because I've totally fallen off the wagon and then they kind of spend they'd be kind of like you know unravel a bit of the weekend then feeling all that remorse lead back to it on Monday and I was just like this isn't you know lame doesn't have to be like this all of this you know guilt and self-loathing and deprivation you know like if you say to people you can't have bread you know like there's something's sake all about bread like even in the Lord's Prayer it was this day our daily bread comfort it's comfort it's so sacred bread absolutely I don't think right away from me but so what I decided to do is I was like well well how about if I bake something fierce I'll make you some pizzas so you don't need to get a takeaway on Friday I'll make you some bread so you can have a quick lunch on the girl or just a piece of toast if you can't be bothered to do bacon eggs breakfast again and I'm gonna make some cookies as well so if you do want a sweet treat you can have something that's not got gluten and it's made of good stuff and I'm gonna make you some jellies as well cuz I know you're struggling to get all of that got healing gelatin into your system so I did and the my clients said that my products were life-changing like seriously this was the difference between them being able to stay on the wagon or fall off the wagon and it was something that the kids like too so you know sometimes you spend all the time making a beautiful meal and then the kids won't eat it like you know the pizzas yeah the pizzas the kids we can give so the Meuse leave ours the kids can have the cookies and you know say it just was really just adding that little bit of convenience and if they knew that I admit it was how maybe the love wasn't being pumped out in a factory so I did that for about 18 months and then I was doing some personal development work with a mentor and she asked me all these really annoying questions like what do you value is Helen and how do you want your life to look like I've never thought about how I don't want my life to look I don't even know what I'm gonna cook for dinner lady you know it's like I don't have time for these silly questions but anyway I'm a good student so I answered a stupid questions right at the table I wasn't thinking of anything at all and these like this idea is literally like I was like I had a little nest on my head right and two little fledgling birds were popped in I can say this to you without sounding weird because I know you'll totally get it and one of them was one of them was franchise you're successful baking business so that other women who are into this lifestyle can start their business and help other people as well and yet to do my group health coaching courses which I've already mentioned before so I was like okay like I don't know anything about the franchise industry like franchise I'm just suits me is really scary and you get ripped off and it's awful you know I was like but I don't know I just thought honey I need to trust this intuition so even I didn't know steps five six and seven I could see steps one two and three and I was like okay well these are the first things I need to do to get it started and I just trust the next step will magically appear as we go I was like wow I'm so lucky and I really believe like a sailor stripper warned these aren't my ideas and I really believe that it's the universe wanting to manifest itself and if I hadn't have acted on these ideas and brought them into form the idea would have gone to someone else and somebody else down the road would be doing primal alternative not me yes so that's that's my story and I'm 58 women have signed up to my franchise in the last 18 months in Australia with an online store it's just incredible like I just did a talk on stage in Melbourne this weekend and when I got off stage I was swamps like it was some kind of rockstars amazing you are well I love it and I love the little like that analogy of the little birds because it's true and I this is the you're right I totally get it because these things have happened to me and I always know that I can't have fear about doing it because it's kind of for somewhere else so it's got to be right like even this on track program it was it was like somebody downloaded it into my brain and there was no stopping me like I had to instantly start creating the program because all the information was coming so fast and then it was like what where's this gonna go where's it go okay I'll trust it I'll trust it because I can't stop I just got to do it don't know what's gonna you look like and in there right but it's an image right it comes from it comes from the universe or some people would call it God or you know but it is that you know that got feely that I think a lot of people probably ignore or at least not they're not opened enough to it and I think and you can tell me what you think about this being in touch with your body and getting to a healthier state inside your body makes you more in tune with that place with that intuition with whatever god whatever you want to call its spirit it's like you can almost get more in tune with it because you're more in tune with your body do you think that oh my god absolutely absolutely wait and wait and almost it's almost like conventional wisdom is almost like a form of social control like this is a little bit out there right but I know you'll get it it's like it's almost just like trying to keep us asleep beepers just stuck in a cycle of brain fog like when you're in so much brain fog and pain and depression you can't hear your inner voice as much I mean they were my the voice that said that said go gluten free like it was almost like gargling free just kinda like woman when you're gonna listen to me I'm in here amidst all of this organs and pain you know but yeah once you start to and I think it's because you align with the frequency of nature you're more aligned with your higher with your highest up it's a higher vibe and when you're there like oh my god I thought that's it you know Thank You universe so my two amazing ideas that have totally transformed my life like wow I seriously feel like I'm rocking the human experience in terms of you know my experiences that I'm having I mean I'm here now in Melbourne I've never flew anywhere for 10 years like I told you I've flown to New Zealand being home to see the family in England you know I'm travelling somewhere and it's really the big country like like America and Canada sits like a good five hour flight to places you know you it's quite scary if you're scared of flying you know but I'm doing it and I'm out there and just get it on stage and put about 100 people this weekend mask in holy crap I never never would have been dared to stand in a room for that long let alone he couldn't get on stage and talk in front of people like that there is no way and you know there's a woman Sandra Hart who's on my thrive program at the moment and this is her second round of thrive she's so she went primal at the start of the year and she's had some great results like weight loss and she's feeling better and all that kind of thing just this morning I read a poster and she was saying that um her joint pain is gone her she doesn't need to use sunglasses all the time because you know when you get that photo sensitivity when you're gonna get light-sensitive everything's like glarry and you think it's just because you live in a sunny place but it's not it's because you're so inflamed and your adrenals are so sharp that you just you can't handle the light and then you that sort of screws up your sleep because all day your shaded your eyes and then on the night you're looking at your phone and then you wonder why you can't sleep because your circadian rhythms like totally back to front you know but um so she was saying that she one thing she didn't expect was the personal growth so she's in karijini which is an amazing part of Australia it's all gorgeous and amphitheaters with like pools he construing we've got to like be good like I am do some really like seriously dangerous walks to get these amazing places and she said she's in her like forties maybe 50s she's a mom she looks like a mom you know she's just like she's an awesome awesome woman and she said she she never would have dared even contemplate doing these walks that make your knees knock and make you shake like a leaf and like they the pathway is down there like that sorry I'm in a hotel room I think that says keeping okay do you want to go get that join a press pause yes all right yeah so she was just saying that yeah like she never expected to to have this to become fearless it's like you know you just get braver and I don't know what that is that I don't if it's scientifically proven enough you know what it is I just want to just dare to do things that you would never do before and it really holy moly these are the this is the stuff that you remember forever these events these experiences you know it's just incredible yeah that's yeah it's gotta be like that you're aligning with your true self in a sense because it's not our natural state to be overweight and unhealthy and sick on the inside and it's like that's where your focus has to go so you know it's that and it's also that inflammation of the brain when your guts inflamed your brains inflamed which causes Ziya D and that's pretty amazing that you could get rid of you know a fear of planes nobody would ever put those two together that your health and your diet had something to do with a fear of flying never no no you know I googled so many podcasts looking at because you know I just thought it was a thing that I just had to work through and I saw a psychologist for help with it and she said you know you just need to try you just need to like face that for you and do it anyway kind of thing but it wasn't even a possibility you know until you think right actually now don't feel C okay my I'm not anxious anymore and I do think I can get on a plane you know like in in the time I haven't got it written in Diaries and I didn't even realize to look back and read it but look honest had Sam and I was in this a perfect life I was on maternity leave for a year had an amazing healthy newborn baby had a wonderful marriage a beautiful home living in Australia had a great paint job that I was going back to yeah everything was right well yeah I just felt so anxious like I felt like I've had like ten espressos you know that feeling you know and I was like so worried all the time and like if Sam would cry my boy like a jump up and run to him you know it's just like this just calm down I was going to say you don't have gonna fall over if you run around like that you're gonna hurt yourself just calm down but you just can't can you even that anxious it's this feeling insides just this going all the time and it's horrible and you just can't get rid of it so to be able to and I'm a member right into my diary I just want to just want to be able to who because when you've got anxious you can't poo right and I just want to feel pain in my tummy like please just let me feel that you know you can just sit down and go yeah feeling like and merits there it's there all the time and even you know Stan Jones you know standing in the wings listening to your introduction waiting on stage you can still feel that okay underneath all this sweat he comes in dry mouth and going on stage excitement it's still like that grounded feeling like it's there I'm still connected generally yeah yeah absolutely and when you when you were going through the healing phase you said you discovered you had SIBO so what was there other things that you did like you changed your diet and that definitely sounds like it was the base of the healing journey like it was mine but what else did you begin to do to heal your system well so as I mentioned before I really place an emphasis on sleep I didn't realize that I needed like a good 9 9 hours a night and I was really sort of getting by on 6 or 7 so that was like huge and when you when you've got insomnia and you can't sleep and then you start sleep in 9 hours all the way through and then you wake up in the morning like oh my did did that just Ana didn't go for five weeks in the night like what you know like that sleep was like oh my goodness like so transformational and then and then aside pooing right right so my body was I was sleeping and and did cooing I know I like and there's not a day that goes by that when I don't have a really healthy dirt in the morning like yeah yeah but I really excited to to spend more time in nature so I was really aware that I was spending a lot of time inside and then I was driving my car to go to a gym to come back home in a car and go back inside again you know so I really spend more time outside so do my exercising outside showering outside meditating I start to meditate to really it I really feel like intuition is like a muscle like we've all got it and but we think that we don't we think that intuition is just reserved for psychics at the fair with the ball you know like where you have it or you don't have it yeah oh yeah you need to go you know like I was going to see somebody who is accessing my guides mm-hmm I was paying her to talk to my guides and then when I realized I was like maybe I could just talk directly to them maybe there were some money there's money and it's just about having that confidence and and building that flexing that muscle you know and and all of that that intuition it's not reserved for amazing light bulb budgeting birds in this moments it's reserved for everything like what should I have for breakfast what dress shall I buy for this gala dinner I've got on Fri I can hear them the voice I'm head no no yes no not like it's there but it's a case of the case of flex in it I've really been committed to to to harness in my intuition and and really trust in it I've done you know a lot of like I said meditations visualizations work with mentors listen to a lot of MindValley YouTube videos and and things like that to really just kind of learn more around how we can ya be more intuitive and create you know we are the creators of our life it's like when I was there in my health crisis that was a result of all of the choices I've made up until that day like that was fully I take full responsibility for that it's not the government's fault of the you know whatever like that was me I made those choices but now it's just like you've got a clean slate of how you want the future to look and you can just you can make that look however you want which is soft looking exciting it is and I think you know when you said when that lady asked you you know what do you want in your future or whatever it was you know what would do you see what you want what do you value I always tell people you have to you have to see in front of you because you're if you don't you're not going to know where you're going you have to have that focus you have to be able to visualize that the body you want the health you want the way you want to see yourself eating you have to be able to see it feel it hear it all of those things all the senses get into it so that you know where you're going because we get so stuck in our little present world present and past world where it's like this mm-hmm you know and people get stuck with the way they're eating and their food addiction and and their body image stuff and they just feel like oh nothing's ever gonna work and they just are constantly looking outside themselves for the next diet for the next whatever it is exercise program and it's like go inside have that vision of what you want it to look like because if you don't you're not gonna know where you're going and quit looking for all those next best things and go inside people think it's so weird when I'm like telling them about how to eat they'll be like oh well you know caring like with my meal planning program they'll say oh he's really hungry you know and there's not a third snack on there and I just you know and they're panicking and it's like going intuitively if you need to eat and you feel hungry they eat it and like they said intuitive eating you know some people might say well my intuition is telling me to eat sugar or whatever right but the more cleaned up you are on the inside the stronger that intuition is gonna get and like start to go inwards start to focus on those feelings about how you want to eat or what you need to eat there's sometimes like before my period I've certainly need more carbohydrates and that's for good reason and I listen to my body and I'll feed it more carbohydrates there's days that I feel like fasting and do you find that as well like with how you eat yeah month my eating has been a little bit I guess a little bit hard to regulate or hard to feel that intrusive on because I had an underactive thyroid so it's something I've been working on with our mutual amazing friends Elvis yeah because you know I was I was having all I had all this amazing health breakthrough over the last four years but there was still a few underlying strangeness happenin like I was always really cold my hair was really thinning and I was again like 14 pounds in a year and even though I was doing quite low low carb quitar stuffs and fasting and you know definitely a bit more in the past of like I even you know quite like to get geeky on my numbers and stuff and just like to check it out so check my macros check my calories you know everything was everything was good so I guess you know from the intuitive eating point of view I'd love to be able to do more fasting and to skip meals but because my blood Sugar's been a little bit all over the place because of the thyroid issue yeah haven't been able to to you know every morning I wake up I like I'm hungry so I've had to I've had to honor that and not think yeah now I need to push through this and fast because of the benefits of our topic yeah and you know like to sack so but I'm hungry and if I don't eat now I'm just going to go into a brain fog that I will not be able to see live for the whole of the day because you've kind of like taking it too far but I just actually got some tea three less cheese there Karen when you're when you're healthy and your thyroid results on the scale okay they're at the bottom of the range well they're still normal and you have your thyroid results but even though you've got the list of you know symptoms that I reeled off before it's taken me over a year to not convinced but to I guess you know I'd like to get my naturopath and functional medicine doctor on board to say okay well we've explored all these are things that it could be you know at your liver we've looked at your adrenals and everything else involved you're good you've done so much healing and this this isn't this and you still have these symptoms so maybe we just need to try a little t3 and see how that feels well I've got to tell you Karen I took the first bit of t3 last Tuesday like a tiny like 11 micrograms just a tiny just need a little chopped-up you know and I was in bed and it's like what's gonna happen what's gonna happen you know I'm seriously I'm straightway like I felt the answer my fingers get warm I was like ah I think it's warm like I was freezing cold and so I was on my phone and doing messages in bed you know like you do and normally I hate all the wrong keys like because I've got really bad hand dexterity that's one of my symptoms so like ricey I have this charge like god it's terrible or somebody would give me a phone number I couldn't I'd mix up the numbers on paper and I use like dicks Lexie I was like yeah yeah yeah and when you want when you've got ID in your head you want to get them out I mean that's one of the reasons I started doing Facebook lies and podcasts because that was quicker to get it out then type in and hitting all the wrong Keys you know like so I guess it's got some benefits but yeah I just thought hitting all the right keys and then I woke up and I was like I feel like flipping some cartwheels or doing some handstands what's this energy but I've got you know and Wow like seriously for me that was the missing piece so I'm just really excited to see how I'm gonna go over the next year or so with this amazing vital hormone in my body and to see how that's gonna take my health to the next level oh it is there's so many women I mean look at you and I who are in this industry who are nutrition coaches and we missed our thyroid issues like so if we got it if we missed it think of the millions of women out there that are missing theirs and I see it in my office every single day where I just had my last client great example she's on medication but her temperature is rock bottom and so nobody's changed her medication and I don't know how long and she feels like crap she can't lose weight and I'm like you got you have to keep upping your dose every couple of weeks until you get to ninety eight point six in your temperature and nobody's told her that before right nobody told me that before I figured all this out on my own but it's very yeah it's it's it's a huge problem and I I want to know why don't you like I think it's a lot to do with our stress levels as women that we're seeing this rise in thyroid issues you know we're we're burning the candle at both ends right now is that not always but Ali like I don't know I don't know about this one you know because it like everybody says oh you know we'd never been been stressed we you know everyone's just stress or stress and I think actually I'm doing more in my life now than I have ever done before you know like a mother I'm running a business you know and I'm having all these experiences for myself so I'm you know before I was like struggling just being a mom you know like just being one but like that was enough like I was more stressed then like now I've got this growing business all these obtain all these are the things all these events every time you pick up the phone that's like 110 things to reply to but I've never felt more like I'm living on purpose I don't know I like I hear you yeah query that I'm stressed because I think stress is is when you it's a negative thing you know you feel stressed out but I think when you're living on purpose I think a lot of women these days it is the first he says it's the first time you know we've really been able to in in the history of mankind to really be able to have an idea and run with it and to get out there on forums like this you know we don't need to be on national TV to be able to blast a message to loads of people because we can just do it ourselves on Zune and put it on a podcast you know so I think it's actually a really exciting time I for women to to come out find their own message and blast it out there to the world so are we stressed I don't know I think I think if you stress it's a feeling that you feeling drained from something so there are certain things you know like in my life I have a great like a little filter filtering things so it's delete delegate and automate so what in my life can I delete delegate and automate to take some of those things like you know you do say oh man this is so draining on steam ahead in like that's the you need to get rid of right but the stuff that makes you feel whoo like this yeah like this is amazing you can do this I could do this all day I've got boundless energy for this you know so I guess on the stress thing it's just a case of tuning in as to what's giving you more energy and what's draining you and yeah we're not all so stressed I remember you listening to I think it was dr. Brian Walsh who is he's a really fascinating approach to cortisol and stress and he said this isn't the first time we've seen stress like think about what it would have been like when we were going to war or where there was hunter-gatherers there would have been so much famine and you know we would have been on the go all the time and the weather and you're living in caves it's not like we haven't had stress and our bodies are super super smart and his thing was a lot had to do with possible infection even that would raise cortisol they were starting to see that more and more that people will go in they figure out they have like e.coli or some virus or something they get rid of it and their cortisol level comes down within 24 hours right like things like that but I and I and I agree and a lot of the time it's kind of a rewording and I said this to a client a few days ago where I said you know are you stretch it's probably you're stressed and she was like yeah you know and she was kind of talking and I was like wait a minute are you happy and she said no I think here's the problem yeah right so yes it's the unhappiness that maybe is causing distress or that just lack of the blondness on the inside you know that needs to I said there you go you need to maybe not necessarily meditate and chill out I said maybe you just need to find something that's gonna fill your cup finally yes like yes yeah it was like by the end of it is she was gonna go rowing and that was her thing and go to the ocean that was like perfect that's what you need to do then it's just feeling your cup up right building a cookbook yes it's so important I think that now just now women are finally giving themselves permission to fill up their cup you know like I have like a list of things that I do every day to fill up my cup and you know I'm traveling at the moment in Melbourne and I am a home but I was like I love my home so much so when I'm away I've got to make sure I stay somewhere really nice and comfortable because that you know when you've had a busy day you want to come back somewhere and relax something quiet and it's always got to have a sauna and a spa and a pool you can that you can do you you can do your thing you know you do your stage thing and you can come back and get into the sauna and just go oh good and I'm feeling so relaxed so just to have yet to really get out there blast your message to world be the best version of you and and to have those beautiful anchors to keep replenishing you if you're just like go go go go go coconut burn and stress stress and that's not gonna be cool at all ya know and so where can I wish you had your product in Canada and the United States is that coming he said the never stab well it's the next obvious step because you know I've got nice friends in America in Canada and New Zealand's as well is an obvious like so close to Australia but I guess at the moment we're in such a growth phase in Austria my heart is hundred percent in this country to get my producers across Australia so that everybody can get access to the product so they're all you know made locally produced locally sold locally at farmer's markets and health food stores and things like that so my heart's here till box in Deer 2020 that's where I've set my vision I want to have 200 producers across Australia by then and then you know like it's really just a case if somebody wanted to produce primal sense it's just a case of tweaking the franchise agreement to suit the Canadian laws and checking the prices and see anything will you get the market price and then just yeah starting there I mean it's not hard to do I think it's a fantastic idea and I do see you branching out for sure it's like why not it's a franchise you're not shipping anything people can just start their own and use the name and you would give them the recipes I'm guessing right you give you yes yeah yeah so when you when you get a franchise you get all the recipes and resources of how to just start that business in your hometown and to get it in to get it and get it going so that's everything from obviously the recipes how to videos I show you videos how to make them labels all the marketing materials you could possibly want photographs to use for your social media a script what to say when you ring a potential stockist all the costings of the objection handling answers just everything close a community of other panelists or producers which is you know the place to go to get support great success and yeah hold yourself accountable so it's a super exciting and Mark Sisson said he thinks I will take over the globe okay so hey there you go tell him back tell him to get primal kitchen involved somehow skirt branch ah frayed a branch off of primal kitchen the premises definitely so are you on like this the one website the primal turn of calm yeah so primal tender calm is where you'll find everything about me my health coaching courses the products I make and the franchise is also heaps of podcast episodes on there and recipes so I do have a grain free Bridge recipe that I put up there for everyone to try if they want to try it I'm on Facebook primal alternative and also on Instagram primal Alton - easy peasy easy peasy well thank you I'm gonna go try I'm gonna try the Brad recipe I've got you I just know if it's if you're selling it out there it's got to be a good one because some of them are a little bit like me what about eight could I put it in my on track program and then with your name and your that's a great idea yeah it's a slightly tweaked version so because we couldn't put one of them it's slightly tweaked so it's called grain free hood right and it's a slight tweak on our zucchini bread delicious take it add can I tell ya Helen Marshall alright okay well thank you for the conversation I think there's gonna be a lot of women that are gonna relate to what you said and if you just have any final message to a woman that was maybe in the sim is in the similar place that you were in at that time do you have you know a one-sentence message for her or a place for her to start I sure do so my message to you if you're feeling like I was feeling and you relate into a message is but you're not on your own and your health journey and you too can reclaim your health the few dietary tweaks lifestyle tweaks and a good community behind you awesome that's a good place to start okay thank you Helen thank you Karen .

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Helen Marshall is a certified Primal Health Coach & founder of the grain free food range Primal Alternative. Helen hosts the Primal Alternative Podcast on the Wellness Couch which is the number one ranked health and wellness podcast station in Australia.

Faced with a health crisis which included chronic nausea, constipation, insomnia, physical pain, headaches, brain fog, depression, anxiety and phobias, Helen returned to a diet of plants and animals to reclaim her health.

In this episode learn how Helen went from sick and fat to thriving! How she found the courage to begin her own business and how she is on a mission to help other women do the same!
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Karen's passion lies in helping women find their weight loss code through body positive nutrition, correcting digestive issues, optimizing hormones and managing chronic stress. She is the founder of the On Track meal planning and group coaching program and host of the On Track video cast and podcast. She is a health leader and researcher determined to revolutionize nutrition for modern women.

Is the paleo keto diet a groundbreaking diabetes treatment?

Ultra York I am sabotage I work as a doctor in internal medicine my main role is treating chronic illnesses such as diabetes I graduated as a doctor from University I worked as a doctor providing emergency medical care I started working in internal medicine later I've been a nutritionist for six years initially we've been using the Paleo diet then after collecting in a feedback and experience we switched the Paleolithic ketogenic diet we've been using it for three years mainly to treat high blood pressure diabetes autoimmune diseases and cancer yokosuka's time we started using the Paleo diet but the results weren't perfect it's good for treating high blood sugar levels and high blood pressure but it's not effective for autoimmune diseases such as Crohn's disease so we started using the Paleolithic ketogenic diet which combines the advantages of the Paleo and the classical ketogenic diet while overcoming the shortcomings of both diets resulting in a very effective diet that can help patients didn't you as it's very simple on psychological and physiological needs are different we like to eat hearty foods carbohydrates milk bread cakes and we think that these are natural parts of our diet quite the contrary as biological creatures we are predisposed to eat meats and fats a mismatch between our genetic predisposition and our current diet is giving rise to the increase in diabetes and other chronic illnesses internal shake I had for my money on me but I will I suppose you guys go well the concept of the Paleo diet is that humans were eating healthily in the Paleolithic Age the classic ketogenic diet has several components that are forbidden in the Paleo diet vegetable plant oil seed flour Tsarina and dairy products it is because of the exclusion of such foods that the Paleolithic ketogenic diet is much more effective than the classic ketogenic diet I was on actually hey Don Williams man low carbohydrate diets have serious advantages compared to high carb diets but it's not a full solution I think the ultimate healthy diet is the Paleolithic ketogenic diet because they're entirely suits our biological needs the more we conform to our biological needs the more effective our diet is if someone is already following a low-carb diet the paleo keto diet is an easy switch the classic ketogenic diet has disadvantages like the ones caused by plant oils and the dairy products these could result in developing health conditions later on very fast results ketosis develops within a few days and so the first results are also seen very early the first advantage is the amount of energy we can get up to three times more energy from the paleolithic ketogenic diet what's more the symptoms of illnesses like high blood pressure and high blood glucose can simply vanish after a few weeks it can help the symptoms of the autoimmune diseases too and with time there was a possibility to recover the autoimmune diseases of themselves intestinal permeability and permeability of other membranes play a huge role in the development of autoimmune diseases currently we do not know any other diet or method which would be able to normalize the barrier function on these membranes you look quite better she do I don't keep them leaning again we talked about type 1 diabetes when the pancreas can't produce enough insulin on its own due to the autoimmune destruction of the beta cells the Paleolithic ketogenic diet can stop the autoimmune process and diabetes it can halt the decay of insulin production what's more it can even improve the insulin production once highly adhered to the diet there are several instances where a patient had a healthy insulin free life with this diet it's working as well the complications are avoidable as well what's different is that it's always working with the Paleolithic ketogenic diet it is possible to restore normal functioning of the body it doesn't matter how long the patient has been a diabetic or what level of sugar levels are there are no side effects we check our patients regularly but we've yet to experience any side effects like I said before this is the best diet for humans from a biological point of view in my experience the ketosis appears after a few days of the diet this can have side effects many fingers sudden high protein intake such as headache diarrhea these despair after a few weeks then the body gets entirely accustomed to this type of diet there may not be a complete normalization of the intestinal permeability during the initial period but tissue starts to regenerate so it helps patients with Crohn's disease dermatitis or eczema again it's important to consider how much protein we eat it's not necessary for human body to consume a lot of protein what's important is the fact we get our energy from fat without fat intake this process can't work to its fullest but it's important to consider that fats of plant origin are never healthy in the long run our feeling of hunger also changes in a carbohydrate based diet the blood sugar levels are the main influence on our hunger but in the case of the Paleolithic ketogenic diet the energy levels are the influence of our hunger it's recommended to eat twice a day on the Paleolithic ketogenic diet the general need for food decreases our bodies produce energy from the fat and during this process water is also produced the same goes for water intake you need less water with the Paleolithic ketogenic diet done with a high carbohydrate diet it's also important to mention that eating aweful such as bone marrow liver and kidney is essential to maintain healthy vitamin levels skeptic ocean and it is much less had Tam O'Shanter - ah they are skeptical and very distant the main reason for this is that stating that someone with diabetes can have a long life without insulin and that this disease may be reversed goes against today's medicine but mostly they don't even know about this opportunity if the patient with type 1 diabetes wants to use the Paleolithic ketogenic diet and seeks help from the diaper tala gesture they'll be refused because the dye Batala gist doesn't know whether and how the diet works I think this will become more widespread in the near future the other important factor for this skepticism is the philosophy behind it if we can't cure something with expensive clinical treatments however could we cure it with simple diet a check or no income Ilan model s what is it as a co-ownership as a PhD who she's actually okay Shira hostage we have to go back to previous methods this means we can't just figure out a cure for a disease we have to go backwards we have to see what works and how well it works in practice we can't deny the Paleolithic ketogenic diet and we can't deny any scientific fact I tell other healthcare professionals to get experience with patients regarding this diet help these patients and if the results are good we have to support the style I had a little skirmish meditation it's a hard question person with Crohn's disease can try the Paleolithic ketogenic diet or other therapies many times but for people with new onset type 1 diabetes there's only one chance to restore insulin production first it is important to intervene with the diet as early as possible to keep the insulin production because later on there would be no second chance once the autoimmune process has destroyed the beta cells it's definitely worth a try for a child with type 1 diabetes if someone's been using insulin for years is not true that blood sugar level fluctuations leads to complications actually these complications are unrelated to the blood glucose but are caused by the information there are several kinds of inflammatory diseases other than diabetes such as kidney failure and heart attack this also supports the theory that it is inflammation and not high blood sugars that leads to complications so if a person with diabetes starts the paleolithic ketogenic diet even if they have to take insulin regularly there's a chance that the complications can be avoided in the long run you know you go yeah we use it for autoimmune diseases and cancer with good results for example Crohn's disease can be reversed and patients with cancer benefit greatly from the diet in some cases it is possible to stop the cancer growth even without surgery we can stabilize information for a very long time although there have been tons of patients were cured cancer with surgery and the paleolithic ketogenic diet they can lead a full life symptom-free Huntelaar factor in Catalan I mean we have to keep in mind that our biological and psychological needs have diverged from each other motivation is needed to stick to the diet but if a child who is suffering with for example advanced Crohn's disease tries this diet they won't feel that the diet is restrictive but they will feel that they are getting better the support of the family and the environment is also a very important factor with a supportive family it is much easier to follow the diet in the long term my personal opinion is that this is not a restrictive diet but a very healthy diet if you want to do something health is the most important thing to maintain the above the shutdown which was internet if the patient uses this diet then no we don't know of any cases where a patient didn't have positive results with this diet the monarchy big deal most is my shoulder yes we have lots of questions like this it is important to see that the Paleolithic ketogenic diet is a complete opposite of the vegetarian diet it takes a lot of willpower because these patients have to switch to a completely different diet what's more they usually have strong opinions about their diet but the vegetarian diet is devastating on health so the only way to recover will need a healthy life and as to use the Paleolithic ketogenic diet is it known in Turkish Kurdish the cash house of Sudan this is a very interesting question I mentioned before that the amount we have to eat is about a third of what we do eat this means that we would have to buy three times less than Ingrid otherwise buy and that we have to produce three times less food then it will avoids produce this means there's less packaging if we don't buy processed foods and we buy less medicine for example let's say that a person spends a lot of money buying ten types of medicine every month with the Paleolithic ketogenic diet this person no longer needs these medicines so the pharmaceutical industry which is responsible for a lot of environmental damage has to produce less medicines the third aspect of this is that livestock farming is no worse in an ecological point of view been cultivating plants for example the greenhouse gases and the ammonia are not as bad for the environment as we think they are you're the very important aspect is that cultivating pants requires a large amounts of pesticides for example because we want to grow cereals where it is not possible the soil is damaged already and these chemicals can impact our health in a very negative way in livestock farming there's no need for pesticides and chemicals - momentum was very cost Ian mostly maestro yes absolutely we know that Inuits and Eskimos are healthy as long as they don't purchase food in supermarkets and follow that own diet you know that these people basically have Paleolithic ketogenic diet researchers didn't find any health complications only benefits it has been raised that these Arctic people have lower life expectancy but this is because they don't have access to health care and infant mortality is high it's also not true that they die early what's true is that many of them died before reaching adulthood due to injuries but this had nothing to do with diet Cheryl the hard I'm skeptical and at the same time I think this is the only solution for Humanity if someone really wants to get better there's no other option of course we started to grow organs so organ transplantations will be more significant in the future but the brain cannot be transplanted so I think there's no other option to be healthy we can't change evolution however that art were the problems the fact that there was already 7 billion people on the planet how can always follow the paleo keto diet if someone really wants to get better there's no other option this is my experience in the view of the past 8 10 years of Medicine .

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Dr Csaba Tóth discusses the remarkable success of his research team in using the paleolithic ketogenic diet to treat diabetes and a number of other conditions.

Read the full article: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/in-depth/ostracised-medical-community-dr-csaba-toth-insists-paleo-keto-diet-groundbreaking-diabetes-treatment/